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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
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02/09/15 07:15 PM
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Obama's whole life was dominated by people who believed in Marxism. From his mother and biological father, his maternal grandparents, his early mentor Frank Marshall Davis, his later influence Derrick Bell, and his domestic terrorist friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. His voting record during his brief term as senator showed he had the most liberal voting record in Congress. All together, Obama is the most far left-wing president we've had. David Axelrod managed to put out this public image of a more moderate, mild-mannered, well-spoken politician who was "above" race. A lot of people believed the hype.
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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
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02/10/15 01:53 PM
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I haven't seen one post that puts some of the blame on congress, surely when you have a congress that sells themselves like whores on the street, they deserve to be called what they are.
they could have voted against the war in Iraq, they could have denied obamacare, they could have stopped the wall street bailouts, they could quit sending jobs overseas, as far as im concerned they are truly worthless.
so is Obama so was bush, we have to understand who really runs this country. the fourth branch of government, LOBBYISTS. if we could get rid of them, we might have a chance to create a great nation like we were after ww2. if they keep dictating policy we will only get worse.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
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02/10/15 03:36 PM
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I haven't seen one post that puts some of the blame on congress, surely when you have a congress that sells themselves like whores on the street, they deserve to be called what they are.
they could have voted against the war in Iraq, they could have denied obamacare, they could have stopped the wall street bailouts, they could quit sending jobs overseas, as far as im concerned they are truly worthless.
so is Obama so was bush, we have to understand who really runs this country. the fourth branch of government, LOBBYISTS. if we could get rid of them, we might have a chance to create a great nation like we were after ww2. if they keep dictating policy we will only get worse. Binnie, I can agree with you they all sale themselves. I'm too lazy and swamped at work to wiki anything but wasn't the house and senate both majority democrat when Osama took office? If so, the GOP had no chance of denying Osamacare or shutting it down. (Not arguing or picking a fight, I like you buddy) Well America wanted change and free Ihpones and we got it. Here we are in shyte creek, anyone got a paddle? Nope, it gone. 
"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"
"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"
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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
[Re: fergie]
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02/10/15 03:39 PM
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Lobbying is in the Constitution. It's the right to petition the government. Lobbyists can influence politicians but they can't make them do anything.
Both parties voted for the war in Iraq, the Democrats push through Obamacare without a single Republican vote, the bailouts were primarily done with the approval of both parties (but not the more conservative and libertarian Republicans, such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Richard Shelby), and outsourcing is often due to American overregulation and high taxation that would prevent the companies from profiting at all, etc.
The AIG bailout, which was prompted by the Secretary of the Treasury and George Bush, was necessary because it was the largest single holder of mortgage securities worth trillions of dollars. If it went under the entire world economy would have collapsed. The good news is that AIG repaid the bailout with the U.S. getting $22.7 billion in profit.
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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
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02/10/15 07:15 PM
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I haven't seen one post that puts some of the blame on congress, surely when you have a congress that sells themselves like whores on the street, they deserve to be called what they are. Obama has had to deal with an obstreperous Congress. So did Clinton and Reagan, both of whom were in office when the opposition party controlled Congress. But they were able to work effectively with Congress because they liked people, they liked politics, they knew how to compromise and were focused on getting legislation through Congress--and they liked being president. None of that applies to Obama. He probably can't wait for his term to be over. Neither can I.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
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02/11/15 04:21 PM
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No, you cant say the president calls the shots, really? We all know they dont...you honestly think Bush did? You think his cabinet let him? Would you have let him call the shots in your kitchen? They listen to 'advice' and repeat, as Bush no doubt did more of than Obama, but they don't, cant, aren't permitted behind the scenes to call the shots, unless its about unimportant shite like gay marriage etc. to make them feel like they are achieving something. "Commander in Chief" is just a silly title which just oozes of fake bravado. Scotland's version would be "Jimmy Big Balls", just to make him feel good.
Never forget, the US press always manipulate public opinion, not the president, like every free country
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Re: Whats wrong with Obama, really?
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02/11/15 07:30 PM
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Never forget, the US press always manipulate public opinion, not the president, like every free country

The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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