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Re: The mob during the crack era
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02/19/15 06:28 PM
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Scorsese you ever been to the Coliseum Mall? I enjoy going there from time to time especially downstairs. I bought a few pieces over the years. Not so much anymore.
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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The OBFCL album and the mob references....direct result of them growing up on Staten Island with Italian kids who allowed people to believe that they were connected to lcn.
Wu-Gambinos
Strong Staten Island accent is heard on the early Wu albums
There's a skit called torture on maybe the first Method Man album where Meth and Rae are speaking to each other back and forth and iif you didn't know who it was could easily be two older Italian men
"I'll F'en hit your nuts with a spiked bat" "I'll F'en cut your eyelids off and feed you nothing but sleeping pills"
Later on....a guy who was managing Wu members turned out to be really connected.....and he turned informant. ..Michael Caruso I think a lot of that was also due to the influence of gangster movies like scarface and goodfellas which are popular amongst rappers. Theres a lot of cool terminology and quotes in those movies. Michael caruso is a very peculiar case. He ratted on a lot of people and then came back as a hip hop guy. Is he still managing them. Heres some background for people not familiar. http://www.villagevoice.com/2000-05-23/news/wu-tang-clan-is-sumthing-ta-fuck-wit/
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Scorsese you ever been to the Coliseum Mall? I enjoy going there from time to time especially downstairs. I bought a few pieces over the years. Not so much anymore. Got my first Rollie there. Down stairs from the Russians.
When Interpol?
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Freebase cocaine is the technical name for crack, they're not different drugs. Look it up.
In freebase form it's almost completely pure due to the process and the route of administration by smoking. You're basically getting pure cocaine into your body in one of the fastest acting routes of administration (except for IV) so yeah, it's VERY addictive. Definitely different. Crack has baking soda. Freebase either ether or ammonia. Free base is more potent. It's really semantics. Nothing to argue over. Is rigatoni the same as spaghetti? And Nicky Barnes was buying from Italians in the 70s. I believe he ratted one few. The guy that Chazz wrote about in Bronx tale. Fat Gigi I think supplied him. I may be wrong. I wasn't even born yet. But it's what I understand to be true.
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Mathew Maddonna from the lucheses was also one of barnes suppliers. I thought freebaseing was just smoking straight up cocaine? Yes I read that too. Malandrino have you ever seen crack or coke? When it is smoked it smells like burnt plastic. I knew friends that would chop up soap and give it to hookers for blow jobs.
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Michael Caruso still manages GFK. Rhymes made of garlic/ never in the target when the narcs hit/ the rumor is you might start to spit/ (ONE) (Chicks( yellin/ Beanie man swung on Hellen/ back of a cop car dirty Tasha tellin/
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Cheech I'm talking strictly as a substance they're the same thing. Mixing agents, etc can affect the purity therefore the intensity of the effect, but that don't make it a whole other drug. Freebase when done right is basically a pure version of "crack." This is the only way I can explain it. Crack is just the result of a sloppy process of turning coke into crack, without purifying it.
Yeah to coke and not to crack, never done it in my life I don't plan to, but lol that sounds like a great idea, thank god we don't have crack whores here, only a few H ones.
-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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[ quote=cheech] Scorsese you ever been to the Coliseum Mall? I enjoy going there from time to time especially downstairs. I bought a few pieces over the years. Not so much anymore. Got my first Rollie there. Down stairs from the Russians. [/quote] I like Benny's spot. Good quality diamonds. Got a couple rings and maybe a chain or two
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Cheech I'm talking strictly as a substance they're the same thing. Mixing agents, etc can affect the purity therefore the intensity of the effect, but that don't make it a whole other drug. Freebase when done right is basically a pure version of "crack." This is the only way I can explain it. Crack is just the result of a sloppy process of turning coke into crack, without purifying it.
Yeah to coke and not to crack, never done it in my life I don't plan to, but lol that sounds like a great idea, thank god we don't have crack whores here, only a few H ones. I don't know what the web and the books say but back in the late 70's when it first and I mean first came around I watched a suppler get a kilo cut a third of it off take a big spoon dig out the center. He had about an 8 ball on the spoon, had a glass baby jar(when they were glass) in a little boiling water put the jar in add baking soda.I said why the soda he said it takes out the toxins and cut and you are left with the coke free of cut and toxins back to it's BASE as per Freebase .This is way back before any of the ghettos even thought of using coke it was 80-100 $ a gram ,but the kilo's were cheep all you needed was the connection. This is way before anyone added all the crazy stuff that is added now. I said first came around ,before everyone says it was here in 1900 I know . What I am talking about is the wave that came in the 80 ish.
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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02/21/15 10:46 AM
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Gets. Impossible is one of the best verses of all time.
Indeed. I watched the Rae video speaking about different ethnic groups on SI and how he mentioned that his old projects was taken over by the Africans. Puzzled me a bit because on a street level never known new African immigrants to run the streets. Rza hinted on the same song about Africans being the new immigrant group on SI innocent black immigrants locked in housing tenements/ Stapleton's been stamped as a concentration camp/ Same people that put the Rae video out have a video about how Staten Island has THE highest concentration of former child soldiers in the United States. Most of them from Liberia. Sad story actually. These guys are shell shocked killers who did and saw things that leave them permanently scarred. Running off some street dudes from the projects is a joke compared to their past lives.
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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[ quote=cheech] Scorsese you ever been to the Coliseum Mall? I enjoy going there from time to time especially downstairs. I bought a few pieces over the years. Not so much anymore. Got my first Rollie there. Down stairs from the Russians. I like Benny's spot. Good quality diamonds. Got a couple rings and maybe a chain or two [/quote] Ok so you know
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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The Wu Tang Clan were investigated by the FBI http://www.vulture.com/2012/01/highlights-from-the-fbis-wu-tang-clan-file.htmlIt's crazy to think that Caruso is still with them if they know his past. Does anyone have any interesting stories about Staten Island, it sounds like an interesting combination of people, from a lot of connected and made men to the Wu Tang and the other groups mentioned in the Raekwon video.
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Re: The mob during the crack era
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Lou, yeah...the Black Hand of Death.. what I didn't know until yesterday was that the group they named themselves after was involved in the EXACT same crimes.....extortions and kidnappings....even of kids pbs doc about Italian American experience briefly highlights how the Black hand would extort legitimate businesses and kidnap and kill children if refused. Preacher and crew infamously kidnapped Rich Porter's little brother for ransom
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