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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
[Re: NE1020]
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03/19/15 06:20 AM
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I remember Roy murdered a made guy from another family before he was even made and Nino just pretty much told him to "make it look like something else" and they made it look like a robbery gone bad.
-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 07:05 AM
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Lol, I agree I doubt it's true... imagine if he'd killed a soldier in Vario's crew. Lucas would be found dead the next day.
-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 10:17 AM
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But is 26 too young? Bonanno was boss at 26, Yonnie Licavoli at 23, Riccobene was made at 18. I thought cases like Ligambi made in his 40s were rarer.
Those were different times back then. Youngsters grew up a lot more faster in the 1920s/1930s than they did later on. And in the case of Bonanno, he had the pedigree. From the 1970s and on, cases of mobsters getting made although still in their 20s, are extremely rare. Who are some of the younger guys from this generation that were made young and what family are they in ?? I think I read somewhere that Barney from west side was made young ...
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 12:20 PM
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But is 26 too young? Bonanno was boss at 26, Yonnie Licavoli at 23, Riccobene was made at 18. I thought cases like Ligambi made in his 40s were rarer.
Those were different times back then. Youngsters grew up a lot more faster in the 1920s/1930s than they did later on. And in the case of Bonanno, he had the pedigree. From the 1970s and on, cases of mobsters getting made although still in their 20s, are extremely rare. I recall reading somewhere that Alphonse Trucchio was made at a young age. Do you know if he was in his late 20's or early 30's Hairy?
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 12:50 PM
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But is 26 too young? Bonanno was boss at 26, Yonnie Licavoli at 23, Riccobene was made at 18. I thought cases like Ligambi made in his 40s were rarer.
Those were different times back then. Youngsters grew up a lot more faster in the 1920s/1930s than they did later on. And in the case of Bonanno, he had the pedigree. From the 1970s and on, cases of mobsters getting made although still in their 20s, are extremely rare. I recall reading somewhere that Alphonse Trucchio was made at a young age. Do you know if he was in his late 20's or early 30's Hairy? Alphonse Trucchio was very young when he was made. He was probably made in 2001, so he was around 25, 26. There are other examples of guys getting made very young. Barney, Cesare Bonventre, Baldo Amato, Little Allie Boy Persico and a few others. Most of the guys, actually a huge majority of all inducted since the 1970s, were in their late 30s, 40s, 50s and in some cases in their 60s.
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 03:13 PM
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I don't think Frank lucas ever had the same influence barnes, frank matthews or even the philly black mafia had. He was actually ripped off during the early 70s by some italian drug dealers and didn't do anything about it. Frank Matthews got ripped off by the same people but he kidnapped one of them and got his money back. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/529/149/386914/ A) The Mattews-Harrison Rip-off (Spring 1973)
As is true of each of the four major deals hereinafter described, Albert Rossi and Ernest Coralluzzo were the principal participants in this transaction. In the spring of 1973, these two and James Capotorto negotiated with Frank Matthews and Harold Harrison for the sale to them of thirty to fifty kilograms of heroin. After Matthews and Harrison had paid $375,000 of the agreed price, Rossi and Coralluzzo, exhibiting a disrespect for the rules of fair play extreme even among narcotics kingpins, decided to renege on their part of the deal.3 Matthews and Harrison, understandably annoyed by such lack of cooperation, decided that self-help would be the most appropriate remedy under the circumstances. Unfortunately for Mr. Capotorto, he turned out to be the object to which Harrison and Matthews helped themselves. Rossi and Coralluzzo, in their only display of humanity revealed by the evidence at trial, returned the $375,000 in exchange for the release of their grateful companion. Ive posted this up before , i was wondering if anyone knew anything about these italian drug dealers?
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 04:21 PM
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I remember Roy murdered a made guy from another family before he was even made and Nino just pretty much told him to "make it look like something else" and they made it look like a robbery gone bad. That gave Nino Gaggi added power over Demeo. Demeo had to be at least smart enough to know that Nino could get him whacked if he divulged Roy's past to a Boss. What I find interesting in Murder Machine is the part of how Nino genuinely wanted to convince Roy that being an unmade associate was much better for him. Unlike a button, an associate has a much higher tolerance for mistakes and can move more freely, etc. Roy wanted his button so bad, but neither Paul or Nino were okay with that. Maybe in a way things would have turned out a little different had Roy not been made?
-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/19/15 04:58 PM
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jimmy burke killed billy batts, and buried his body. tommy desimone got whacked for it. not burke.
burke and his crew probably killed more made guys, and got away with it. I guess big earners can whack made guys. The murder of Foxy Jerothe was the one that got Tommy clipped.
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/20/15 01:15 AM
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But is 26 too young? Bonanno was boss at 26, Yonnie Licavoli at 23, Riccobene was made at 18. I thought cases like Ligambi made in his 40s were rarer. Those were different times back then. Youngsters grew up a lot more faster in the 1920s/1930s than they did later on. And in the case of Bonanno, he had the pedigree. From the 1970s and on, cases of mobsters getting made although still in their 20s, are extremely rare. Alphonse Trucchio was very young when he was made. He was probably made in 2001, so he was around 25, 26. There are other examples of guys getting made very young. Barney, Cesare Bonventre, Baldo Amato, Little Allie Boy Persico and a few others. Most of the guys, actually a huge majority of all inducted since the 1970s, were in their late 30s, 40s, 50s and in some cases in their 60s. Barney Bellomo is a made man son and cousin of an associate can speak both Italian and English. He spent a year studying mortuary science (very useful in the case to remove the on corpses)so he has the pedigree to be made yonger. Same thing for Phil Leonetti made at 27 and Salvie Testa made at 24;both was initiated in Cosa Nostra by a relative,the uncle nicky for leonetti and his father for salvie. Junior Gotti and little allie boy was made only because their fathers was the bosses. now is more diffcult that has made young, especially after the case donnie brasco that was re-introduced the rule that you have to be full-blooded italian and that you gonna be an associate for 10 years before being proposed to be made.
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Re: Repercussions of killing a made guy...
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03/20/15 01:54 AM
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Alphonse Trucchio was very young when he was made. He was probably made in 2001, so he was around 25, 26. There are other examples of guys getting made very young. Barney, Cesare Bonventre, Baldo Amato, Little Allie Boy Persico and a few others. Most of the guys, actually a huge majority of all inducted since the 1970s, were in their late 30s, 40s, 50s and in some cases in their 60s. ^ This. If a guy is getting made in his early 30's, to saying nothing of his 20's, he's obviously very well connected (likely a blood family member making it happen) and has an inside track to getting his button.
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