yes, you are right. however race relations are severly strained in some parts of the country, too bad everyone can't get along, but they can't.

that doesn't mean all white people are good, they are no different than any other race, good, and bad.

but, ive been here for 46 years, came from so. calif in 1968. have never been back to so. cal. never missed it.

Where in So. Cal. did you live?

I was born in long beach, grew up in Buena park, graduated 1960 Buena park high school,

lived in Torrance, ca. in 66 67 worked in the shipyards during the Vietnam war, tough years, violence everywhere in the 60s,

glad I left so. cal. like I say, been up here 46 years, there is a lake right in my town , in the center of the city.

but, brother is it conservative politically here.

@Binnie - The drought is very severe, but Gov. Jerry Brown is more interested in his multi-billion dollar boondoggle high speed train to nowhere than using some of that money to go toward desalinization plants. As for OC, the demographics have really changed. It's about 40% non-Latino white, about 35% Latino, and I'd say about 20% Asian/Pacific Islander, leaving a small amount of blacks/African Americans and Native Americans.

UC Irvine, the large University of California campus, is so far to the Left that it recently voted to remove the American flag from its lobby because it was a symbol of oppression..

OC isn't as conservative as it used to be, not by a long shot. Certain parts are rich, like Newport Beach and Yorba Linda, Anaheim Hills, Huntington Beach, Laguna Niguel and Laguna Beach range from middle class to upper, but on the other hand Santa Ana and much of Anaheim are poor and are majority Hispanic. UC Irvine, the large University of California campus, is so far to the Left that it recently voted to remove the American flag from its lobby because it was a symbol of oppression. Others overruled the decision, but it might not last.

There are a number of Board members whose posts are responsible by any measure. One measure is accuracy; others, not so much. Regarding a couple of posts above:

Members of the The University of California at Irvine student government voted to ban all flags from the lobby of its student government office on the campus. The student government executive council countered that vote by vetoing it as the student government charter states that the executive council can do. Thus, the removal of all flags from the student government office lobby never took place.

UC Irvine, the large University of California campus, is so far to the Left that it recently voted to remove the American flag from its lobby because it was a symbol of oppression. Others overruled the decision, but it might not last.

What was incorrect? And why are you defending that action?

Are you asking me if I defend the removal of the flag or olivant? If it was me, I wasn't defending the removal, just that the overruling may not last because so many of the students there are Far-Left hate-America types. There are a lot of radicalized Muslim students there who are not only pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, but anti-Jewish and anti-American. Left-wing students sympathize with them as victims of the oppressive Zionists and Americans.

There are a number of Board members whose posts are responsible by any measure. One measure is accuracy; others, not so much. Regarding a couple of posts above:

Members of the The University of California at Irvine student government voted to ban all flags from the lobby of its student government office on the campus. The student government executive council countered that vote by vetoing it as the student government charter states that the executive council can do. Thus, the removal of all flags from the student government office lobby never took place.

As per federal guidelines, which have the force of law but do not have penalties stipulated, the US flag is not illegal anywhere within the territories of the United States. I'm gonna check out your story on the UC Irvine issue.

Raising a foreign flag in the United States by itself, or at equal mast to the US flag is actually illegal. You can only raise a foreign flag in the USA if Old Glory is displayed above it. The exception is the United Nations Building in NYC where all flags are displayed at equal mast with the blessing of the text of flag law. That's the extent of my familiarity with US flag code, right or wrong.

any way , now that Hillary came out and wants the presidency, I don't feel the excitement for her in the democrat party, that was felt in years past.

can she win? the nomination maybe, but, can she beat the republican nominee? im not as sure of that as I once was.

The Clinton Pig will never be President. Mark it down. Pizzaboy: April 13, 2015. And I said as much back in 2008, but you'd have to do a lot of searching to find those posts. But they're still here if you look hard enough for them.

de Blasio (who I hate, but now have at least this reason to admire for three minutes) already backstabbed her (it's on the cover of both NY tabloids today). The Obamas hate her and will follow suit.

Why should Biden step aside for her? I think he's an idiot, but he's a two-term lame duck Vice President. Why should he step aside for her if he wants it?

Clinton, Kennedy, Bush, Taft, Harrison, Adams, Roosevelt, Rockefeller, and on and on and on. This is America. There's no such thing as a royal family here. That Kennedy Camelot bullshit always drove me up a fucking wall. Why did we break away from England in the first place if we're just going to keep putting the same families back in office?

I've grown far too cynical to post in these political threads lately. But for clarity's sake, I was a moderate Democrat for over thirty years. But I never in my life pulled the lever just because there was a (D) next to a candidate's name. Today I'm an Independent and a very jaded one at that.

Fuck Hillary Clinton. I'd vote for a qualified moderate female candidate in a heartbeat. But I'd rather give myself an appendectomy with a rusty surgical tool in India than utter the words President Clinton ever again.

But back to the original point. Pizzaboy: April 13, 2015. That woman will never be President. And I hope the pain of another grueling two-year long campaign and eventual heartbreaking loss ages her another twenty years. She already looks like steamed shit on a plate.