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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: mightyhealthy] #840268
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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
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Honest question, when is the last time the Gov't made a new chart? I remember they made one for the 2007 Lucchese bust, I think. They made some kind of chart, anyway.

Duly noted, and a fair point. But there are always lots of charts floating around these sites that turn out to be incorrect. One of them had Dean DePreta listed as a made guy a few years ago. I told the chart maker that he wasn't, and I was just scoffed off.

Fast forward a few years, when Dean was indicted as an associate and said chart maker altered the chart. But he never got around to admitting that I was right. Cheech can attest to this.


That's the guy from Hamden? Or Stamford?

Stamford, every day of his life. Except for the 2000 or so days that he's spent in Federal prisons so far.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840272
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No one from Hamden was in that bust. It's where the poker club was for all of 5 minutes.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: pizzaboy] #840273
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On point as usual PB

My guess is you know 10x as much as me but I have several friends that working the industry by where I live and it's a little Bigger than recycling but I get your point .

They should just stop stealing the shit so it doesn't bring heat and just do their normal thing. I'm not even sure there is big $ in garbage anymore as they lost that huge inflated mob tax that was literally 30-40m pure profit to the families . There is no big tax in NJ or CT for that matter but what still drives me nuts is these guys are paid to settle territory disputes and broker for more business , this is legit shit , I can't see it going away anytime soon as their service is needed . Feds instead of locking up a job every politician does , develop a dispute resolution system.

Now there are some garbage stuff that is much more lucrative but PB has brought it up here

Also don't forget those carpenters

Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: Moe_Tilden] #840275
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
DePreta. Sounds like a pretzel joint.


When he gets home you can tell him that.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840276
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Cheech, not really. A little far from me. Im more Southwest. I did drive a bit over there when I was working an area around there.

That poker game wasn't a mainstay there? It was part of the indictment, right?

Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840278
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Mainstay. Not floating if that's what you mean. Yes part of the indictment. It was a really bad idea and one of the reasons it didn't work out in the long run.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: mightyhealthy] #840279
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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Cheech, not really. A little far from me. Im more Southwest. I did drive a bit over there when I was working an area around there.

That poker game wasn't a mainstay there? It was part of the indictment, right?

Most useless bust in the history of District of Connecticut/United States District Court.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840280
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The far majority never even seen a made guy

It made for a nice headline.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: cheech] #840281
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Originally Posted By: cheech
The far majority never even seen a made guy

Sounds like these boards lol.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: Serpiente] #840282
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Agree serp and it's not just construction. Again tho this is 2nd and 3rd hand to me , you I think have a much better feel .

And again a lot of this stuff is legit business . For all their faults the Persicos have a shit ton of money they got over the years to invest in legit deals

Thats why we should all be careful as PB or others in the know may talk about a lot of today's top mobsters like Crea and big guy but a lot of their business are legit , why do u think it's so hard to get them, they are somehow only guilty of influencing civilian biz deals that every politician does with lobbyist. Maybe they get a small cut of gaming but I wouldn't be surprised if they let their blue collar guys just earn with how much construction Union and garbage coming in ( legit ) and that blue collar crew has huge market share in NYC CT North and South Jersey and I even here philly is an area they are growing for gambling

Why our govt spends $1 on generally non violent gambling , sharking and construction , Union , Gargbage alliances over our putrid politicians voting almost entirely based upon what lobbyist contributed money, with almost no regard for what's best for this country . I have nothing vs Israel or Saudis but they bought our congress and as a result we are in a never ending war because of thier $, they realized what really drives our govt , for no benefit outside of biz for Northrup Gunman General Dynamics etc

One day a time will come that the real criminals , the big banker and power brokers will get called out for their actions . That 99% crowd that was next to my office at least started bringing attention to the issue even tho they were terribly organized and malfunctioned

Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: pizzaboy] #840283
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We can talk more PB on garbage when the PM whackos take a break

Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: pizzaboy] #840286
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Funny how the Genovese are traditionally considered the strongest and largest crime family, yet if you had to name capos or soldiers it would take longer to come up with a list of names than it would their peers.

And you think the former statement is mutually exclusive of the latter? wink

That secrecy is one of the main reasons that they lead the pack. There are at least half-a-dozen made guys in that family (and I'm talking about in the Bronx/Westchester faction alone) whose names are yet to appear on an official government chart. You're not gonna find it on Google, either smile.


According to some posters, you are not allowed to count made guys that have not been identified as such by the feds.

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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: mightyhealthy] #840287
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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy

Honest question, when is the last time the Gov't made a new chart? I remember they made one for the 2007 Lucchese bust, I think. They made some kind of chart, anyway.

And what the HELL is going on with that trial?? It's going to be a DECADE soon. That is just absolutely ridiculous to me. We're halfway through 2015! (Which is crazy to think about in its own right)


Operation heat? It has been that long? Damn.

Didn't they seize cars, houses, and bank accounts? So they just been holding onto it all this time?

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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: Blackjack2121] #840288
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Didn't they seize cars, houses, and bank accounts? So they just been holding onto it all this time?

A couple of the bookmakers still have frozen assets and liens of up to one million dollars. Bookmakers!

I don't know how you'd go about looking that up. But I'm sure there's a way. But I know for a fact that it's true.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840289
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You not been on the other site for a while PB? Check you're PM

Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840290
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He's not PM. He's PB.


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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: pizzaboy] #840291
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Didn't they seize cars, houses, and bank accounts? So they just been holding onto it all this time?

A couple of the bookmakers still have frozen assets and liens of up to one million dollars. Bookmakers!

I don't know how you'd go about looking that up. But I'm sure there's a way. But I know for a fact that it's true.


That's crazy. Money that has not been legitimately deemed as being earned illegally being held for a DECADE.

Really, right now it should be their money to do with what they please. If the feds levy a fine AFTER being found guilty, then fine.

Fucking feds can do whatever they want.

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
He's not PM. He's PB.


Yet to find any of you're jokes funny, Moe. And you crack about 10 a day on here.

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Surprised no1 flipped from the 2007 Luke bust, a lot of lower level guys are getting hurt because of it.

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Re: Joe Cammarano Jr trying to take over Bonanno's? [Re: TommyGambino] #840297
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
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He's not PM. He's PB.


Yet to find any of you're jokes funny, Moe. And you crack about 10 a day on here.


That was a bad one. I figured he was drunk instead of a joke attempt. lol

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It was supposed to be bad.

"you're PM".

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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Didn't they seize cars, houses, and bank accounts? So they just been holding onto it all this time?

A couple of the bookmakers still have frozen assets and liens of up to one million dollars. Bookmakers!

I don't know how you'd go about looking that up. But I'm sure there's a way. But I know for a fact that it's true.


That's crazy. Money that has not been legitimately deemed as being earned illegally being held for a DECADE.

Really, right now it should be their money to do with what they please. If the feds levy a fine AFTER being found guilty, then fine.

Fucking feds can do whatever they want.


yes, the IRS the FBI, and any government agency can freeze your bank account just by entering the bank and flashing gov. ID, and, so can any state freeze your bank account, and, its up to you to prove their wrong.

this is a violation of your constitutional rights, but, the government makes their own rules, and people are getting the shaft,



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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It's a nice kind of karmic justice though, Binnie, considering the ways these mob guys bilk money out of desperate people.


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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Didn't they seize cars, houses, and bank accounts? So they just been holding onto it all this time?

A couple of the bookmakers still have frozen assets and liens of up to one million dollars. Bookmakers!

I don't know how you'd go about looking that up. But I'm sure there's a way. But I know for a fact that it's true.


That's crazy. Money that has not been legitimately deemed as being earned illegally being held for a DECADE.

Really, right now it should be their money to do with what they please. If the feds levy a fine AFTER being found guilty, then fine.

Fucking feds can do whatever they want.


yes, the IRS the FBI, and any government agency can freeze your bank account just by entering the bank and flashing gov. ID, and, so can any state freeze your bank account, and, its up to you to prove their wrong.

this is a violation of your constitutional rights, but, the government makes their own rules, and people are getting the shaft,


It is complete bullshit the power some govt agencies have

Checks and balances?

WHERE???

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It's a nice kind of karmic justice though, Binnie, considering the ways these mob guys bilk money out of desperate people.



What about the way the government bilks us for 30 percent of our hard earned money every year?

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It's a nice kind of karmic justice though, Binnie, considering the ways these mob guys bilk money out of desperate people.



Bookmakers bilk money out of desperate people? If those desperate people won they'd want there money though, rights?


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It was a bullshit trumped up gambling, loansharking charge and Finance for prison contraband , good $ tho lol

Most of the kids on that list were freaking gambling agents , really Feds ? And they trashed and I mean trashed civilian businesses to try and find the monster case that wasn't there and these poor low level kids to be front page of time mag, really

Now they got some players but those guys will never touch a phone again or drive a car without a check and general countersurvialiance , they are ghosts now , Perna, Ceta were some of the main soldier type gets .

This bust disrupted nothing and probably got rid of the weak links as a few low levels flipped . Around the time of this bust up to 2010-11 these guys had one of the biggest oxy ring operations , we are talking millions upon millions of pills and profits , big time dope money .

Monster earnings , prob why Ducks loved them as they had tons of hitters and although word is they didn't have to kick up a big chunk ( ala WS) they expanded territory , shit them and Philly almost went to war for real and with them under the Luchesse flag got gambling and shark in line where it probably can't be brought down

I heard this would of plead out awhile ago but the prosecutor is being a dick and not offering Vito a plea from his 15 year threatened sentence so it will string out as long as he sees fit, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear things start heating back up again after Michael gets back and is brought up to speed. What will be real interesting is how / if Tacetta falls into line as IMO it's isn't theirs anymore and the other guys brought in a ton of $ from a lot of things over along period . Highly doubt you see a rat soldier from that crew for awhile

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Originally Posted By: cheech
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It's a nice kind of karmic justice though, Binnie, considering the ways these mob guys bilk money out of desperate people.



Bookmakers bilk money out of desperate people? If those desperate people won they'd want there money though, rights?



It's ok for Vegas? Casinos? Scratch offs? Lotto machines?


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U can't even pull into the corner store cause there just sitting there scratching their tickets losing and walking back in. Bookmakers are the least of societies problems. When's the last time you read someone getting killed or beaten real bad over a mob related gambling debt or a gambling debt in general? If people don't pay they egg cut off and word gets around faster than you can come up with a stupid joke, moe.
Do some of the mob guys bilk hard earned people out of money? Yes. But there's just some bookmakers on there scraping by with their assets froze without being guilty as of yet? Is that fair?


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