It would be Narducci's (and the old guard from the Scarfo era) for the taking. But it probably wouldn't be much of a viable mafia 'family' at that point anymore.

Nobody (except for Nicodemo himself) knows exactly what he could/would give up. But I imagine he could sink pretty much the entire hierarchy and several capos. Merlino, Mazzone, Ciancaglini, Ligambi, Mikey Lance, and several others.

It would stay viable if they start making a bunch of guys. Might not be as strong, but still viable.

It would stay viable if they start making a bunch of guys. Might not be as strong, but still viable.

Allegedly he is the shooter with NIcodemo driving I believe. But what do I know.

there's tons of young dudes around them, not saying they are looking to get "made" but def like to look and play the part and hang around them...they also seem to have alot of brothas around them now too

how many actual made philly guys are "mob material"?

BJack: They don't have to be ,it takes thousands of these guys to keep cash in the soldiers pocket.
There may only be one or two out of all of them to know enough for anything to stand up in court if they tried to flip.
This is exactly what they want ,eventually one or two will rise up and become mob prospects. This may take five ten years depending on the made guy.
It is totally different then street gangs or bikers that is is a very short process ,maybe only a year to patch in a bike club.

I understand all of that but with their current numbers they can't really afford one or 2 guys trickling in every 5 or 10 years. Ligambi is getting up there in age and is semi retired. Might be a few other guys getting up there in age too...but the main core of Merlino and his guys are younger, middle aged guys. So that is one good thing for them.

Might be a few other guys getting up there in age too...but the main core of Merlino and his guys are younger, middle aged guys. So that is one good thing for them.

Also despite being old as shit, the Scarfo guys have all hit the ground running since their releases.

True Ted if each made guy put up 1, 2 or 3 guys now and then the numbers come out to just about what has been going on.

I also think they have gotten a little smarter weather it has to do with age or spending all that time in jail,but I don't know this I am guessing they have changed the way they do things .

I really don't think that the guys on the bottom have a clue whats going on at the top.In past years the whole family knew when someone hit a score.I think those days are over ,and it is being used all the way up the chain (just to many rats before)

But as far as the numbers go they have been making guys and it is most likely hush hush .Philly always loved to let the whole city and more know who was the guy ,not anymore.

Then there is the Scarfo crew ,if the top guys are like the charts say then Stevie is giving the Scarf guys the ok to make guys also. Now this could be a double edge sword. I think they will make the more intelligent and business minded guys .No doubt they need street guys but they come a dime a dozen,and are all over anyway.

Strange how Joe Grande is with Scoops, why isn't he with the other Scarfo guys.

So are you claiming a resurgence of the Philly mob? I just don't see it.

We have seen most of the associates in busts already. Who are the 7 guys? Or are you saying they have not been ID'd?

I could see them staying steady for a while, but I just dont think the pool is there for them to grow.

How many made members do YOU think they have? In your opinion?

Just trying to get a feel for what you are saying.

The Philly Crime Family is not economically viable.