I couldnt even finish this piece of shit it had so many stupid inaccuracies like sayin Greg Scarpa was acting Colombo boss for a time or that the Lucchese's were the largest ny fam..even as a mob novice shit drove me nuts.

I know Calco was one of the Bath ave boys but he makes himself out to be like Speros adopted son and a huge earner seemed far fetched to me..anyone know more bout him? I cant read another sentence in this POS so any insight would be much appreciated, thanks fellas

The book is what it is. For the price it was on the kindle,$ 3.95 i believe, it was a good way to pass a few hours reading it. I only bought it bc i was told ahead of time it mentions my grandfather a few times, and it does so for that reason I wasnt disappointed.

I was told not to waste my money on it. I checked reviews on Amazon and they were not good at all.
I find the bath ave crew very interesting but don't know if I'm gonna get it.

That's exactly why I bought it on my kindle too... mad cheap to read at the airport

Organized crime books are NOTORIOUS for inaccuracies. I have been thinking a lot about this recently. I own roughly 50 organized crime books and I think all but two have spelling inaccuracies or blantantly wrong information. It is very obnoxious. The book "Lion in the basement" is HORRIBLE in these ways. I had to put it down and the book doesn't really have a point either.

Joey very much overstated his relationship to Anthony. He made all those kids feel like they were his favorite and all it got most of them was life upstate. Just ask Fabrizio.

Normally ur a douche bag to me for no reason..but I gotta agree some of these mob books are just hideously bad...the two books that I cant recall any errors and are my fav are "I Heard You Paint Houses" and "Five Families"..maybe u or someone else can find some errors in them two but I dont remember any..and Raab's book is great with so much info hes a real pro

Thanks for the reply bklyn...so Spero was a legit mentor to all those nutjobs..since I didnt finish the book and not familiar w how Spero got pinched, did his mentorship of these kids come back to bite him in the ass and have anything to do w his downfall?

I'm pretty sure Spero was sent away due to the bath ave crew. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Spero was brought down by bath Ave but he was going down anyway he was running the bonnano family for a short time those careers aren't known for their life longevity.

He was a mentor in the sense he saw in these kids potential for him to use them to further his position in the bonnanos. He had the power on bath ave and these kids were attracted to that like a moth to a flame. Growing up in these neighborhoods it's very difficult not to get caught up in the life. You don't wake up one morning and decide your now a gangster. An errand here a collection there it's a gradual thing and before you know it they have their hooks into you.

I bought it for cheap on Amazon and skimmed through it. It has some good parts but the overly-philosophical writing style is somewhat off-putting.

Then, as said above, the inaccuracies. After he says the Luccheses were the biggest and most powerful early on in the book, he later claims the Bonannos climbed to the top spot during the post-Gotti era. Neither is true. We also get the nonsense about Gotti "bringing down" the mob and the Colombians/Blacks/Russians taking over the LCN's business. He claims the no-drug rule was passed by Carlo Gambino. He says "Jerry Lang" was a member of the Genovese family and that Crazy Joe Gallo started his war against Profaci in the 1970's. Oops.

Sounds like it was very well researched .

I just made this exact statement in another thread. But these 80-page true crime e-books are the 21st-century equivalent of the 1950's True Detective magazines (which weren't very true).

I've actually never read a mob book but have been thinking hard about getting the garbage racket book " The Takedown ", some on here have said its pretty accurate which is a deal breaker for me

First though I'm working thru John Grisham " The Broker", I'm only 60 pages in but so far so good , his books are just excellent from a depth and research point of view

That's a great book. I'd highly recommend it.

Yeah Ivy I heard you say that and your one poster I trust with valuing accuracy PB I think also thought it was pretty accurate and he was close to the action there

Sounds like it will be next up . I still like the hard copies , hoping I can find one cheap

Pizza boy this is the third thread I've commented on and you gloss right over my over observations . You got me on the pay no mind list? One street guy to another don't let me feel left out I'm trying to become a valuable asset to the board. I always see you welcoming these euros and people from fly over country . Do the right thing here chief .

Obviously you need an introduction from another made man...

Hello bklyn, were from bath ave?

Cropsey ave which is a block away from bath ave

Benanti ruined spero and all those kids, they got split up between george conti, bobby decicco, spero, scars had some of them when they were young but fast money was with drugs ,he told them not with me..yeah i know where crops ave is..i lived in the heart of that area for decades.then back to the bronx

Well, there are a variety of reasons. The most blatant being that you signed up two years ago but just started posting. That's never a good sign.

Balance of post edited out .... let's keep on topic and let this all this pissing contest off the boards. SC

I thought it was on topic, SC. Every word I posted was part of a detailed explanation as to why I haven't replied to him. He asked me why, and I told him.

But you're the boss. I promise you that won't hear another word about it from me. And if he directly addresses me again and asks me why I'm not answering his questions, I'll just ignore him. Unless he gets personal. Then I'll hit the notify button.

Thanks, pb.

benanti guy seems like he was everywhere. theres a pic from the 50tys of him and luchese dope don ralph c. rays pizza after they robbed something then hes in the famous pizza connection weddiing photos then i read in the 90tys hes be smoking weed drunk around bath ave but gave speros orders.just was around the life foever died in jail in the end did the guy have any money. guess spero daughter had that limo company worth a couple mill in bk. fucking hot outside today. swamp ass.

Still alive huh? Give it time. You won't be.

First off, " the Calcster " never would have been made. Spero had those guys do his dirty work but which one actually made mucho dinero? At the end of the day. Its all about the coconuts. I dont plan on reading " the Calcsters" book.

It's not a good look for you to make threats over the interwebz that you would NEVER make face to face.

Boom roasted= Michael scott

Bk

Don't worry about other posters

Trust me if you share accurate info somewhat regularily on here without pumping your chest, and you'll be the well liked and respected .

I know ackowledgment is nice , especially from guys like PB and Bronx but at end of day it's a MB of mostly strangers , who cares , im ignored all the time here, it's no big deal , it's just a random MB man , plenty of other things to get pissed about , like a bathtub leak I can't quite figure out ( doesn't leak with shower , only when tub is partially full into room below ), I caulked the shit out of that bathroom too, just bought the investment prop in oct too, now that's something to get pissed about - unforcasted biz expenses - luckily my friend is cool with just getting him some weed but until we open it up , no clue on what materials are needed