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Re: Hillary Clinton lies
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05/03/15 01:40 PM
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It does gets. But these days Sanders isn't alone. He may be the only official socialist in Congress, but there are progressives who are as far or farther to the Left than he is. I really don't know if there's a dime's worth of difference between him and the California left-wingers like Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi and the dozens of others, or the Illinois leftists like Bobby Rush. Years ago Jerry Brown was considered Far Left, but today, without really changing any positions, he's almost a moderate considering how far the Democratic Party has moved.
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Re: Hillary Clinton lies
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05/03/15 01:59 PM
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Bernie Sanders . A self proclaimed socialist. Maybe I over analyze things but isn't Sanders sort of like stock plain jane girlfriend in sitcoms, who is only there to make the star look more attractive?  Doesn't Sanders' presence immediately move Hillary right of center in perception? Doesn't it force people to examine what her actual positions are? Good thinking maybe the plan is to make Hillary seem like of a middle of the Road democrat. Especially with Bill campaigning for her.
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Re: Hillary Clinton lies
[Re: bigboy]
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05/18/15 11:32 PM
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There's also a story now that in the emails between Hillary and Sidney Blumenthal that she used a second personal email while Secretary of State when she said she only used one. She used both emails to conduct government business instead of using the government email address that she was supposed to have used. The former no. 2 guy at the CIA said in a recent interview that he has no doubt that foreign governments hacked both her personal emails, which is why she was supposed to have used only government emails. It also turns out that Hillary knew of plots to kill the ambassador in Libya in revenge for killing bin Laden months before he was killed, putting the lie to the claim that it was because of a stupid video. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/pol...re-handled.htmlHere the Times of Russia shows Hillary's hacked emails: http://rt.com/usa/complete-emails-guccifer-clinton-554/Here's the story of her second email addy: http://nypost.com/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-had-a-second-secret-e-mail-address/The corruption just doesn't stop.
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Re: Hillary Clinton lies
[Re: bigboy]
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05/19/15 05:49 PM
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The Clintons have nothing to fear. The die-hard Democrats are going to back them even if they grab some uzis and shoot up a kindergarten. Think about it: Bill was not only impeached but lost his law license and everyone knows he's been a serial wife-cheater for decades, but he is still the most loved Democrat out there next to Obama. He's made about $25 million in speaking fees alone (this is while his wife says that they're "poor").
Since Biden and Warren aren't running Obama is backing Hillary, although it seemed like the Obama administration was leaking some things about her a few months back. Maybe that's to keep her from criticizing him, the real Capo di Capi. The Republicans have no balls and have no interest in subpoenaing her server or servers, so the most they will do is ask questions and complain. The media (most of them, anyway) worship her and don't mind if she takes months to answer any questions, while in the meantime they'll stake out Rick Perry outside a bathroom to pepper him with questions.
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Re: Hillary Clinton lies
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05/20/15 01:43 PM
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Man, two stupid replies in a row. What's the world coming to?!?
The point isn't just that "politicians lie," but rather that some lie and repeatedly get away with the lies. Football players using steroids can be fined, made to miss games, or even fired. Adultery often ends up with costly divorces. They get consequences for their actions. Sometimes these politicians lie under oath and expect no consequences while they hypocritically send to prison those who do the very same things but lack their political power.
The point about the Clintons specifically wasn't just that they lied, but that they broke laws. That's a difference so big that a blind man can see it (but sadly, some posters can't).
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Re: Hillary Clinton lies
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06/10/15 07:26 PM
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... but these last couple of years I've seen how Obama is such a weak, indecisive leader who just goes with the flow and trends. He doesn't instill one bit of fear into anybody even though he's the head of one of the most powerful countries in the world. Hopefully this time America gets a REAL president. That new president will have his/her hands full just trying to undo the damage Obama has done to this great country. I don't think a new president has the power to undo much. Presidents come and go, but the power and influence behind them stays the same.
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