The Bilderberg Group. David Rockefeller. Hilary Clinton. Just to name a few. I know the Government is probably in their pocket but you'd think that if you made an inquiry the FBI out of just plain suspiscion that they would at least look into it because under the LOGAN ACT technically what they could or are doing is illegal. To meet with outside foreign public officials and discuss policy I guess is what that act covers..

You're likely right. I definitely believe the Bilderberg group dictates policy for the US and Europe. And this is not even a conspiracy theory because they meet every year, that's a fact.

They met in my city one time in europe. Amazing amount of security. They say it's nothing political or serious, but when all the world leaders in business, politics,and media gather together, world policies are being formed whether you're a conspiracy guy or not

Eh, businesses control politics, but they don't always agree.

For example, in the new deal, you had capital intensive businesses teaming up with labor unions as a coalition to fight labor intensive businesses. Happens all the time.

This is an annual event where they all get together. It's not an emergency meeting or whatever. Every year the people who control every aspect of the world as we know it meet up, and there's barely a mention of it anywhere? That's strange. If Michelle Obama goes on vacation I hear all about it. It doesn't add up

OK I'll play along...

Gotta love those Rothschilds

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If I may,I'd like to offer you some marketing advice. Consider bundling the foil hats with a trip to the secret island where Elvis ,the REAL Paul Mcartney,and Jim Morrison live.

Also I think "one size fits all" may be overkill. Basic pinhead size should pretty much do it.

There's even crazy people who believe that a group of Italian criminals have a secret society with blood oaths LOL

There are no such things as secret societies...where did that jiberish came from? Everything in the world is so simple and crystal clear, just like the government guys and their puppets in media tells you. Conspiracy theories...pffff bollocks

I always find it funny when I hear or read about the 'Illuminati' as the group that supposedly controls the world. The actual 'Illuminati' was a group in Italy in the 18th century that has nothing to do with the Bilderberg group of today.

It is also ridiculous to place the FBI and the Mafia in that group, as if they're on the same side. If they really were then we would still have 'Hoovers' denying the existance of the Mafia and they certainly wouldn't have hit them so hard in the 80s and 90s. There's no reason to put on such a big 'show' just to fool the public if they were all part of the same conspiracy. But then again, who knows, right?

I would place the CIA in that group...

It gets more crazy as people attach labels and charts and family bloodlines and shit. To me, it's pretty logical that if there is an annual event where the leaders in every area meet up, there will be a lot of unwritten deals and agreements that influence policies that will be enacted under some other disguise.
When you start talking about the illuminati and the freemasons and whatever Alex Jones rants about, it gets weird. But on the other hand, do you think the leaders of politics, business, and media just get together to hang out and play tennis? Wouldn't that be a wasted opportunity with all the power at that bildeberg conference?

Agreed with blacksheep, however many people in high places, including presidents, have been members of secret societies such as the Skull&Bones, while policitians, business men and mafiosi in Italy were part of Freemasonry. Those memberships probably contributed to future business relationships between such individuals. For me what starts to get fiction are 'conspiracy' theories that claim that Obama, Putin, North Korea, China and Iran are all on the same side. Would be hilarious if true. The people believing those theories also believe that the Nazis, Japan, Russia and the US were allies during WWII all the while exterminating each other for show.

Were? They still are. ..

The idea is that the illumanati went underground and continued through fronts is how i understand it. I mean there is a lot of free mason/illumanati symbolism in odd places. Then theres the idea that if they were only around in the 18th century why is it weve heard of them so much up until the present day? If they were some thing that died in the 18th century why has andrew jackson, theodore roosevelt and lincoln made statements about invisible governments involving international bankers whom the illumananti were tied to originally.

The best antidotes to conspiracy theories are facts.

-The Illuminati was formed in 1776 in Bavaria, Germany, and at best lasted for 50 years, but more likely about 25 years. It was anti-clerical (anti-Catholic) and had a peak membership of about 650 members. Some people claimed it was responsible for the French Revolution.

-The Freemasons formed in 1717, but had lodges going back to around 1580, in England. It was semi-Protestant, but incorporated pagan rituals and gave itself a mythological history claiming that it began in ancient Egypt. It spread to mainland Europe and the Americas. In France it was more radical and some of its members were involved in the French Revolution. In the British colonies in what became the USA, it was more conservative with its members rejecting European radicalism. A few of the American Founders were Freemasons, like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, but most of the Founders were not, especially the ones who compiled the Constitution and Declaration such as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. In the USA it is primarily a social gathering and its members tend to have middle-of-the-road political views. Since each lodge is independent, there is no Masonic "pope" to pass out orders to all the other ones.

-The Skull and Bones society started out a fraternity at Yale University and is now co-ed, but still exists only at Yale. Conspiracy theorists pick on Skull and Bones because a lot of politicians were one members, but there is no single political viewpoint. Some former members were conservative (William F. Buckley, George Bush) and others liberal and progressive (Lanny Davis, John Kerry, Austin Goolsbee [a member of the Obama administration]). They engage in the usual college pranks and made up stories about themselves. If they were a Greek fraternity they probably would receive all this notoriety.

-The Council on Foreign Relations is a think tank that invites scholars, researchers and politicians to discuss and debate foreign affairs and even puts out a journal called Foreign Affairs. Members come from all of the world and have different points of view. It does promote free trade.

-The Bilderberger is a primarily European conference that meets to promote better relations between Europe and the Americas. Meetings are kept secret because participants are free to speak their minds. Some people claim that they are really a cabal that dictates to American political parties and don't like their secrecy.

-The Rothschilds are a European Jewish banking family who are politically moderate to liberal but who are pro-Zionist, and support Jewish causes. Since they are Jews that should be expected. Some people claim they supported the Bolsheviks and Nazis, which makes no sense. Actually during World War II the Nazis captured their banks and some of them fled to the USA. They have been accused of funding wars, but funding the bad guys makes no economic sense because if the bad guys won they'd take over their banks. That's why during the Napoleanic Wars they gave loans to the British. Currently one member of the Rothschild family is on the New York Federal Reserve board. He has no more power than any other member.

-The Rockefellers. An American banking family descended from billionaire John D. Rockefeller. Some went into politics, like Nelson Rockefeller, a Republican, and Jay Rockefeller, a Democrat. They are connected with the Chase Manhattan Bank, the Rockefeller Center, and help fund many colleges and universities. Politically they lean liberal-left to Progressive (used to be more conservative). Some members of this family are also on the Federal Reserve.

-The Tri-Lateral Commission: This is a non-partisan group founded by David Rockefeller to foster better relations between the USA, Europe and Japan, but has expanded to North America, Europe and the Pacific. Zbigniew Brzezinski, who worked in the Jimmy Carter administration, is the director, so this suggests that it's a left-leaning group.

thank you faithful 1, yes, George Washington was a mason, there is a picture of him in full mason regalia, is it true that he took the oath of office in his mason getup?

Benjamin franklin was indeed a mason, the masons of france gave the statute of liberty to the united states, franklin was instrumental in this gift from france.

I think you underestimate the masons, I think today they have more influence than you give them credit for. and the rothchilds have started more than one war for profit.

Well, Binnie, please elaborate. I'd like to know how today's Masons have more power than that. I'd also like to know what wars the Rothschilds started.

Yes, Washington, I believe, took the oath in full Masonic regalia, and what you wrote about Franklin is true. Washington D.C. is also a Masonic design.

Here is an interesting list of masons: http://www.businessinsider.com/powerful-...s-own-society-1

An even longer list can be found at Wikipedia. There are Jewish, Protestant and Catholic Masons. Strom Thurmond was a Mason. Jesse Jackson is a Mason. John Elway and Shaq are both Masons.

Notice that they come from all walks of life and have conflicting political views. Some were only briefly members. To me it seems that Masonic lodges are for friendships and business relationships. Each individual lodge is different.

Thats right Binnie. They have been using the same tactics since the old days. In 1811 Nathan Rothschild wanted a renewal for the charter of Rothschilds bank in the U.S. but the congress voted against it. So this guy publicly threatened the United States that the country will find itsself in a war if they dont agree with the renewal.But the U.S. congress again refused and Rothschild again publicly stated that someone should teach the americans a lesson and that they should be brought back to colonial status. So in 1812, a war was declared between the U.S. and Great Britain. The Rothschilds plan was to destroy the U.S. economicly with the war because the U.S. army and navy at the time were not up to the task of fighting the British, so later they would have to surrender to the Rothschilds and allow the charter for the Rothschild Bank in the U.S. to be renewed.

The Rothschilds love wars because they are massive generators of debts. They usually play on both sides by funding the conflicts.And in the end it doesnt matter who won the war because the loans are already given. Does these tacticts remind you of some other organization? The Mafia maybe?

I don't buy the 'fact' about the bildeberg conference that faithful put up. We don't need a secret gathering of world powers to promote American and European relations. We get along and trade just fine.

They funded both sides in wwi and I think ww2 as well

Also the facts faithful1 claims, the first one about the illumananti..where does it say they dissipated?

They might not be illuminati persay faithful1, whatever they are called they have been spoken about since the days of andrew jackson where jackson shut them the fuck down and they tried to kill him several times. FACT

Look up quotes on the invisible government by andrew jackson theo roosevelt and i think even lincoln..he was going to print money look what happened to him.

Only time america was out of debt was after jackson shut down the central bank...unfortunately they came back..

faithful, I find it strange that a president would take the oath of office in masonic regalia, making one wonder if it is an inauguraration of the president of the U.S. or a masonic rite.

why would he take the oath of office in masonic regalia ?

I can't make sense of that. also about the rothchilds and war, toodoped has the answer to that one. as does extortion.

George Washington was a mason in name only. In 30years he only visited lodge about 4 times. Neither Jefferson or Madison were freemasons. Ben Franklin was an active freemason in philly.

did why did he take the oath of office in full masonic regalia ?

Im not sure if he did. His lack of attendance at lodge meetings suggests he didnt care for it much. He took his oath of office in lower Manhattan and walked to St Pauls Church near ground zero. The church is well preserved and a tourist attraction.

no.... if you check on it you will find that he took the oath in full masonic regalia. and it remains a mystery.