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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #857304
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which book about Frank Costello is mostly relevant?

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Originally Posted By: bonanno
which book about Frank Costello is mostly relevant?

I've wondered this too. During his reign as boos seems to be one of the most successful periods of the american mob so I'd like to read a book about him but not sure which is the best.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859028
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The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano -- is it fake or real?

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Pickup up Murder Machine again today, Started it a while back but wanted to read Juniors book first.

Gotti JR book was Ok.


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Originally Posted By: DuesPaid
Pickup up Murder Machine again today, Started it a while back but wanted to read Juniors book first.

Gotti JR book was Ok.



Murder machine and is one of the best mafia books ever. Enjoy.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859097
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i enjoyed gotti jr interesting the last few chapters the feds played it real nasty to get him cheated and lied but I found when talking about is father a little boring

al D`arco book was my favourtes ever really well wrote and I learned about a lot of guys I never knew about. I enjoyed blood and honour and mafia prince was good. Ron prevites book was one of my favourites gave a real insight into the joey merlino mob.

the calbrease book was good by his son frank junior

the book on Massimo and vinny basancio were very good

alites book was one of the worst

kenjis book was ok don't like kenji

jimmy frantninos book is very good the first one

Andrew didontartos book was average


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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
i enjoyed gotti jr interesting the last few chapters the feds played it real nasty to get him cheated and lied but I found when talking about is father a little boring

al D`arco book was my favourtes ever really well wrote and I learned about a lot of guys I never knew about. I enjoyed blood and honour and mafia prince was good. Ron prevites book was one of my favourites gave a real insight into the joey merlino mob.

the calbrease book was good by his son frank junior

the book on Massimo and vinny basancio were very good

alites book was one of the worst

kenjis book was ok don't like kenji

jimmy frantninos book is very good the first one

Andrew didontartos book was average


You've read a lot. Have you read The Sinatra Club? Quick and easy very fun read about Queens Colombo associate with connections to Gambino and Luchese associates.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: gangstereport] #859117
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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
i enjoyed gotti jr interesting the last few chapters the feds played it real nasty to get him cheated and lied but I found when talking about is father a little boring

al D`arco book was my favourtes ever really well wrote and I learned about a lot of guys I never knew about. I enjoyed blood and honour and mafia prince was good. Ron prevites book was one of my favourites gave a real insight into the joey merlino mob.

the calbrease book was good by his son frank junior

the book on Massimo and vinny basancio were very good

alites book was one of the worst

kenjis book was ok don't like kenji

jimmy frantninos book is very good the first one

Andrew didontartos book was average


You believe what he says that easily?


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859125
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no I have not i will have a look at it thanks

the books i have read would go in this order

1)mob boss (al D`arco former luchese boss) 10/10
2)The Last Mafioso: 10/10 (great insight into the mob at that time jimmy frantinos book former los angles mob boss)
3)last godfather 9/10 (joey Massimo former mob boss)
4)mafia prince 9/10(Philip leonetti former philly underboss)
5) Last gangster 8/10(ron previte mob soldier/capo)
6)blood and honour (nicky crows mob soldier)
7)operation family secrets 8/10 (about the calbrease crew and family written by the son very good
8)Vinny gorgeous 7/10 (good insight on the acting boss of the bonanos vinny basancio)
9)whity bulgers book 9/10
10)surviving the mob 7/10 Andrew didontaro Gambino assoiate did not like the guy but was interesting to see a lot of guys like little nicky corezzo personaily
11)murder machine 7/10 (good read)
12) Gotti 7/10 (good read)
13)junior gottis book 7/10 (good read)
14) Russel Buflanio 7/10 (good read
15)i heard you paint houses 7/10 (average read
16)gottis rules 1/1o ( a book by a lying thug scumbag and a reporter who sold his reputation for money he knew thebook would generate because of the gotti connection sicking


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Moe_Tilden] #859127
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
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i enjoyed gotti jr interesting the last few chapters the feds played it real nasty to get him cheated and lied but I found when talking about is father a little boring

al D`arco book was my favourtes ever really well wrote and I learned about a lot of guys I never knew about. I enjoyed blood and honour and mafia prince was good. Ron prevites book was one of my favourites gave a real insight into the joey merlino mob.

the calbrease book was good by his son frank junior

the book on Massimo and vinny basancio were very good

alites book was one of the worst

kenjis book was ok don't like kenji

jimmy frantninos book is very good the first one

Andrew didontartos book was average


You believe what he says that easily?




I assume your talking about junior gotti.



No when he talks about his father and he leaves out a lot of what he did


yes when he talks about alite


and I believe everything he says about the trials read the book before you judge that ted otto should be put on trial he was trying to get the guy whacked


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859139
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I don't doubt that Alite is a liar. I think both of them are liars.

It probably helped Gotti more than the Feds having someone like Alite testifying against him.

Gotti is very deceptive and duplicitous. Watch his 60 Minutes interview. Maybe the guy truly believes what he is saying and that his father is some martyr, but everything he says he is lying through his teeth.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859190
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Once again read my post

I said I dont believe what he says about his father.


I said I do believe in what he says about the trials and until you read the book you won't understand my opinion

The first half of juniors book is shit he says how much of a god his father is after he goes to prison in the 90s that's when the book gets good because it shows how dirty the Feds played it in his trial


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: BennyB] #859377
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Pickup up Murder Machine again today, Started it a while back but wanted to read Juniors book first.

Gotti JR book was Ok.



Murder machine and is one of the best mafia books ever. Enjoy.


Thanks B, its movin right along the way a good book should.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859395
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Well, after about two months, The Last Mafioso and Murder Machine have finally arrived at my home (fucking amazon, fucking bank card company)& i'll get started on those tomorrow....I couldnt finish Shadow of My Father, it's boring to me for some reason. The whole "noble son/I was La Cosa Nostra after my father went away" angle is such bullshit from Junior. I still got a couple of chapters left on Alites book. Which was very good early on, but then the gunfights and prison stories start to get spoken on and its all kind of embellished to me, that it made it hard for me to read through. Think I'll tough it out though. Operation Family Secrets by Frank Jr. is among my least favorite mob books, however "Operation Family Secrets: The case that crippled The Chicago Outfit" by Jeff Coen, is amazing.


Does anyone know if there are any other books about the Stanfa mob other than Prevites "The Last Gangster" and "The Goodfellas Tapes"?

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Murder Machine is a good book Good Read enjoy smile

Re: Mafia Books [Re: SinatraClub] #859432
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Operation Family Secrets by Frank Jr. is among my least favorite mob books, however "Operation Family Secrets: The case that crippled The Chicago Outfit" by Jeff Coen, is amazing.


Sounds like you should pick up "Family Affair: Greed, Treachery, and Betrayal in the Chicago Mafia" and "Organized Crime in Chicago
Beyond the Mafia". Perfect complements to "Operation Family Secrets" and of course "The Outfit" by Russo.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #859461
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Just finished Mafia Prince. I really recommend it, perfect book to get an insight in the Scarfo crew and his era.

Can someone help me find a new book? I really wanna read about the Genovese or some kind of book about a big power struggle in the LCN.

If I don't find anyone I like I'll probably order Murder Machine.

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Originally Posted By: Testa
Can someone help me find a new book? I really wanna read about the Genovese or some kind of book about a big power struggle in the LCN.

Try one of these wink
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Books-about-Mafia/lm/R39XESMMU3WWRK

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Originally Posted By: Testa
Just finished Mafia Prince. I really recommend it, perfect book to get an insight in the Scarfo crew and his era.

Can someone help me find a new book? I really wanna read about the Genovese or some kind of book about a big power struggle in the LCN.

If I don't find anyone I like I'll probably order Murder Machine.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Last-Gangster-George-Anastasia/dp/0060764953

last gangster by geogre antastia is the book for you



its about the bloody power struggle the philly mob went through during the 90s and how the merlino mob and ralph natatle operated



if you fancy a kind of new york twist i advise

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mob-Boss-Jerry-Capeci/dp/1250006864


first hand account of former luchese acting boss al d`arco and how the casso/amuso reign went and how they killed people the power struggle with the bronx/brooklyn history about many new york gangsters and storys and the casso and amuso parnoia


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Moe_Tilden] #859477
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I think his sister, not the blonde but the other one, says you can tell he's lying when he's blinking.

If you look at that 60 mins video, it's all he's doing. Blinkers. LOL.

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Gotti is very deceptive and duplicitous. Watch his 60 Minutes interview. Maybe the guy truly believes what he is saying and that his father is some martyr, but everything he says he is lying through his teeth.


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Thanks for the help guys! I'll look into some of the books and come back here once I ordered one!

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Nevermind, I just ordered Mob Boss.

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you will enjoy it


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Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.

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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.


The fact is , he was a Boss.

Living in an apartment, where he lived was chosen, a way of life that many never traded in for many reasons. Even The Chin and many other people who have and had plenty of resources to live anywhere "chose" to live where they have family, protection, stability and a feeling of security that is priceless.

Judging someone for that reason is rediculous.

I did live in the same type of neighborhood and understand this completely.

On another note, I wonder who , without the right skills, could have survived working for those two mutt losers.

You?


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Originally Posted By: bonanno
The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano -- is it fake or real?
I happen to own that book for about 20 yrs. now, & have read it periodically maybe 7 or 8 times throughout the yrs. & sometimes i feel as if he's (lucky luciano) bullshitin' about certain things, then on the other hand, a lot of it rings true if you know his history & operations..all in all I would recommend finding & purchasing it for keeps..a bedside fixture for all interested.


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The Brotherhood of Evil:The Mafia by Frederic Sondhern jr.,written in 1959 right after appalachian,when all the old guys were STILL alive, with a forward by Harry J Anslinger, Lucky's old nemesis...if u want a first hand account of the law's view back then of the "so called Mafia",..Hoover was still in denial,...was a very hard to find, found in an old book warehouse w/ about a million (literally) books,,but the owner was up on the value & rareness of the compisition..charged me 35 bucks after trying to jack him down a bit..would'nt budge after that.


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Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.


The fact is , he was a Boss.

Living in an apartment, where he lived was chosen, a way of life that many never traded in for many reasons. Even The Chin and many other people who have and had plenty of resources to live anywhere "chose" to live where they have family, protection, stability and a feeling of security that is priceless.

Judging someone for that reason is rediculous.

I did live in the same type of neighborhood and understand this completely.

On another note, I wonder who , without the right skills, could have survived working for those two mutt losers.

You?


Al D'Arco was a glorified capo. He didn't make any decisions of his own while being "boss", every decision and call he made was what Casso & Amuso told him to do. I'm not judging D'Arco because he lived in apartments, that was just an example along with everything else I mentioned as to why I think parts of his story were embellished. Calling him a "boss" with a straight face is laughable, to me at least. He was placed there in an acting role, all the decisions came from Casso & Amuso, he was quickly demoted from that acting boss spot not too long after, then ran to the feds under fear of being placed on the hit list. Fat Pete flat out disobeyed Amuso & Casso when it came down to it. D'Arco survived by being merely a lap dog for the two men. He never generated any real money outside of his Burger stand, or so he claims. So it's hard to say if his low income tenement living was a choice or not. I do know that he basically got into his last one for free through the Windows scam. But again, like I said, I'm not judging him for that. Fact is, Al D'Arco is much more Nick Caramandi than an Angelo Bruno. And like I said again, the book is great as I'm regards to the story of a lower rung made man, one who basically had to scheme all his literal life out of necessity as opposed to want.

@ Bonanno, you can download the Last Testament of Luciano online for free, through Google if you search hard enough. Over the years the book has become less and less desirable as it seems the author really had no with Luciano like what the book implies and how those words may not even be Lucianos. But I'm of the opinion they are, and that he just jerked the author about certain things. Just throwing that out there.

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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
The Brotherhood of Evil:The Mafia by Frederic Sondhern jr.,written in 1959 right after appalachian,when all the old guys were STILL alive, with a forward by Harry J Anslinger, Lucky's old nemesis...if u want a first hand account of the law's view back then of the "so called Mafia",..Hoover was still in denial,...was a very hard to find, found in an old book warehouse w/ about a million (literally) books,,but the owner was up on the value & rareness of the compisition..charged me 35 bucks after trying to jack him down a bit..would'nt budge after that.

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Re: Mafia Books [Re: SinatraClub] #859600
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Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life.


The fact is , he was a Boss.

Living in an apartment, where he lived was chosen, a way of life that many never traded in for many reasons. Even The Chin and many other people who have and had plenty of resources to live anywhere "chose" to live where they have family, protection, stability and a feeling of security that is priceless.

Judging someone for that reason is rediculous.

I did live in the same type of neighborhood and understand this completely.

On another note, I wonder who , without the right skills, could have survived working for those two mutt losers.

You?


Al D'Arco was a glorified capo. He didn't make any decisions of his own while being "boss", every decision and call he made was what Casso & Amuso told him to do. I'm not judging D'Arco because he lived in apartments, that was just an example along with everything else I mentioned as to why I think parts of his story were embellished. Calling him a "boss" with a straight face is laughable, to me at least. He was placed there in an acting role, all the decisions came from Casso & Amuso, he was quickly demoted from that acting boss spot not too long after, then ran to the feds under fear of being placed on the hit list. Fat Pete flat out disobeyed Amuso & Casso when it came down to it. D'Arco survived by being merely a lap dog for the two men. He never generated any real money outside of his Burger stand, or so he claims. So it's hard to say if his low income tenement living was a choice or not. I do know that he basically got into his last one for free through the Windows scam. But again, like I said, I'm not judging him for that. Fact is, Al D'Arco is much more Nick Caramandi than an Angelo Bruno. And like I said again, the book is great as I'm regards to the story of a lower rung made man, one who basically had to scheme all his literal life out of necessity as opposed to want.

@ Bonanno, you can download the Last Testament of Luciano online for free, through Google if you search hard enough. Over the years the book has become less and less desirable as it seems the author really had no with Luciano like what the book implies and how those words may not even be Lucianos. But I'm of the opinion they are, and that he just jerked the author about certain things. Just throwing that out there.

Agree 100%. they chose him because they wanted someone who they could order around and wouldn't threaten their power. Was he really a good replacement for Paul Vario??

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