@pizzaboy

it was inhumane but it was supposed to show how grimey nino brown was

watch menace 2 soceity and you'll be wondering why larenz tate didn't get more roles

There's just something wrong with that sentence.

Goodfellas
Casino
Menace II Society
American Me
Blood In Blood Out

the best of the best right there...

Casino is underrated. Great flick, just a tad too long.

‘Mob Wives’ star tells Kyle Smith to STFU about ‘GoodFellas’
"Mob Wives" star Renee Graziano couldn't disagree more with The Post's Kyle Smith.

As the daughter of oft-jailed mobster Anthony Graziano, Renee Graziano grew up in the center of Mafia culture during its high-living heyday. Now, the tough-talking Graziano is filming the sixth season of VH1’s reality series “Mob Wives.” Here, she responds to Post movie critic Kyle Smith who recently opined that “women don’t understand ‘GoodFellas.’ ”
Hey, Kyle Smith — you talking to me?
I think you’re around the wrong ladies if you say that women don’t understand “GoodFellas.”
Clearly you’re asking the opinion of a woman who cries over a f - - king tampon commercial.
“GoodFellas” is my favorite Mafia movie — in fact, if you ask any female, they would agree with me. You’re right that it’s different from “The Godfather,” because it’s more modern for women of my generation.
But mostly, it’s a movie about loyalty — and nobody knows more about loyalty than a woman. If you violate that trust, there are consequences. We may not murder like they did in the movie, but we will cut you off regardless. Let’s just say it’s like being dead while you are alive.
In the movie, I think a lot of us see the breakdown of family and destruction of a household. Many women experience that and can relate to it.
What about the glitz and glamour in the flick? You wrote about “Sex and the City,” which is more girly-girl and all about fashion — but in “GoodFellas,” there were more fur coats and diamonds than Carrie Bradshaw could even dream about.
“GoodFellas” is full of misbehaving men — and nobody loves a bad boy more than us ladies. We automatically go straight to them.
Hell, I dated every last one of them! I was basically married to a Henry Hill, who was a rat and cheating with a coke whore. Except her name wasn’t Janice Rossi. It was Raven, and she was a stripper.
And yeah, I have been through hell, and I am still laughing because I CAN bust balls — even though I don’t have them.
You guys sit around with your cigars, booze and busting each other’s chops. We’re doing the same thing, except we’re smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee.
And by the way, you men can keep your balls. We have a woman running for president, and you are saying we’re too sensitive for ball-busting? Look at Hillary Clinton. She’s not crying. I admire her.
I guess people would say your column was sexist, but I view it more as ignorant — just plain ignorance — but I am a fair person. So here’s how we can right your wrong: Come hang out with the Mob Wives and binge-watch the five seasons with us. Then, we’ll watch Scorsese’s masterpiece.
This an open invitation for macaroni, meatballs and “Mob Wives.”
But I have to warn you, Kyle. You’re going to have to write a correction after you spend some time with us. That’s exactly what you’re going to have to do.

I agree with cookcounty that Larenz Tate stole the show from the lead character in Menace 2 Society, it's amazing how he didn't have a bigger career after it.

It really is an underrated film from that time period, Boyz in the Hood tends to be the main piece that people still talk about. It's also interesting to note that the Hughes Brothers were only 21 when they wrote and directed Menance.

Renee Graziano pontificating about loyalty.

What a low, base, self promoting, attention grabbing hypocritical bunch of bullshit.

Selling her 'mafia connection' to the world for cheap dollars, disgracing her father, behaving atrociously, putting her personal life on display to the world and she's lecturing about loyalty?

Where's her loyalty to self respect? Respect for her family? Respect for her father?

She's loyal to money. And there's a word for that...

Goodfellas has aired continuously on cable tv for years.

At least 3 times when I've caught it, it was on lifetime or some network geared towards women.

I think in it's own way, film did a great job of showing the reality of being the wife of a career criminal.the highs and lows

One scene, Karen is shown getting stacks of cash from Henry, in their luxury digs...later, she's seen schlepping her kids to prison to visit their father, smuggling drugs, and speaking of public assistance.Scene where Jimmy intimidates her speaks for itself.

This guy has got it backwards. The Godfather is the fantasy picture. Goodfellas is the realistic one.

Spot on Sonny. And don't forget her sister, Jenifer Graziano, the creator and Producer of that crap.

@ Sonny Blackstein: That might be your best post ever, Aussie. And you've made a lot of them .


Whore.

But if you apply it, even in its correct context (and in this particular context it couldn't be more apropos), the Women's Defense League and the other alphabet soup liberal groups will come at you in droves. Even when you're financially profiting from the murders that you're OWN FATHER was involved in.

We talk about the changes in the life here constantly. The technology (for reality television and everything else) wasn't even thought of at the time. The thought if it would have brought "The Jetsons" to mind. But both Rusty and Lilo, who were the power when her father was a young guy, would have had this broad popped in a heartbeat. Not to mention what would have happened to TG himself.

A-Fucking-men! They're all disgraces and isn't Karen Gravano a mud shark?

@CookCounty: Of course you do...

Check out some classics:

Mean Streets
Once Upon a Time in America
Donnie Brasco
Casino


Other Classics not LCN

Heat (Best movie of all time IMO)
Carlito's Way

There's a shock



Both are actually very good movies. But, if we're making comparisons, they aren't in the same league as Goodfellas. Though you'll notice a few parallels in Menace II Society, like the opening card game scene where a guy gets shot. Obviously borrowing from the Tommy/Spider scene in Goodfellas. The Hughes brothers are huge fans of Goodfellas and even participated in a special feature about it.



I think it's because Goodfellas stole it's thunder 5 years earlier. If you compare the two, Casino is basically a carbon copy of Goodfellas - based on a book (same author), the use of voice-overs throughout, the classic rise and fall plot, problems with the wife included, etc. But both are among the best mob movies ever made.



That's true which I thought was always strange. I can't picture many women choosing to watch Goodfellas unless they are watching it with a guy.



Agreed.

No greater compliment on this board than one coming from you PB.
My sincere thanks

@ Oscar: check out 'The Pope of Greenwich village'. Outstanding. A PB referral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8--2FauCHE

Regarding the Graziano posts and all those other disgraceful despicable women she is affiliated with:

A daughter should know her place in the family and to always do right by her father to make him proud.

Don't ever disgrace the family name. And DONT GO ON FUCKIN TV how friggin stupid can you be.

Menace II Society was laid out directly following Goodfellas, the brothers were always upfront about that.

Like how you feel sympathy for Henry because everyone around him is sooo bad, you feel the same for Caine in Menace, mainly because of O Dog. they did that on purpose.

Also, one of the brothers was beaten down on the street by Tupac and some other guys. Tupac was supposed to play the muslim kid but disagreed with something or another and things went south.

imho there is no other black gangsta type movie that is even in the same league as Menace II Society. If you guys haven't seen it...man I'm tellin' ya...

a classic scene towards the beginning a Menace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44xYb2I2BU8

Anyone who belongs to a Mafia Message Board but doesn't like Goodfellas is at least half a troll. ..lol. Haven't caught Menace to Society yet, but saw Boyz in the Hood in the theatre back in the day. . Excellent movie.

Tupac's thugs beat down the Hughes bros, they original cast 2pac as the nation of Islam character, Tupac wanted to play O-Dog. The brothers said no thanks, the young unknown Lawrenz Tate was killing it in rehearsals.

Come on lads....Jack City is a shocker.

I agree with the others that it is an excellent movie. Captures life in the 90's very well. To me, it is 10x better than Boyz N Tha Hood and I loved it as well.

Only thing I didn't like was A-Wax shooting a .50 cal Desert Eagle one handed. Anyone that has ever held one knows that is bullshit

"You owe me some money mf'er? Hell nah, but here you go"

I can't believe we agree on something. We NEVER seen Tate after this movie and I thought for sure after I watched M2S that he would have had a good role in another big movie. He stole the show for sure.

He was in Dead Presidents after Menace, but that wasn't all that great. Then I never saw him again...