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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/18/15 09:49 PM
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Db I agree pal. That said, the fact that the state can show intent is enough for a comspiracy. I highly doubt those guys are prone to violence like some of those NY guys but if the state really wanted to push those charges, they would have a 15 year bid with a stip.
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/18/15 11:22 PM
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That is very true Belmont
But I still think that was mostly talk , don't see them carrying out such a violent act But that's why you don't talk. Ever. You ever hear e Westside boss threaten to sever someone's head off on tape, and throw his own name into the taped conversation just for shits and giggles? That's old and unrelated to New Jersey, but it's a fair analogy. A threat is as still a threat. And if you're part of a criminal organization, it's the threat that instills the fear and not the violence itself that sets these D.A.s off. It's the fear that they throw into people that pisses off judges the most. Their motto is that no American should ever have to live in fear, and the judges mention it every fucking chance they get Belmont hit it right on the head. If this was in New York, they'd draw fifteen with the wrong judge. On a plea! Db I agree pal. That said, the fact that the state can show intent is enough for a comspiracy. I highly doubt those guys are prone to violence like some of those NY guys but if the state really wanted to push those charges, they would have a 15 year bid with a stip.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 07:06 AM
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That is very true Belmont
But I still think that was mostly talk , don't see them carrying out such a violent act But that's why you don't talk. Ever. You ever hear e Westside boss threaten to sever someone's head off on tape, and throw his own name into the taped conversation just for shits and giggles? That's old and unrelated to New Jersey, but it's a fair analogy. A threat is as still a threat. And if you're part of a criminal organization, it's the threat that instills the fear and not the violence itself that sets these D.A.s off. It's the fear that they throw into people that pisses off judges the most. Their motto is that no American should ever have to live in fear, and the judges mention it every fucking chance they get Belmont hit it right on the head. If this was in New York, they'd draw fifteen with the wrong judge. On a plea! Db I agree pal. That said, the fact that the state can show intent is enough for a comspiracy. I highly doubt those guys are prone to violence like some of those NY guys but if the state really wanted to push those charges, they would have a 15 year bid with a stip. yeah PB , Bobby manna did far worse
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 09:01 AM
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yeah PB , Bobby manna did far worse And he's coming out of prison feet first  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 01:30 PM
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Totally agree PB , they were just young kids full of Adrenaline ( sorry damn auto text ) and bad boy phase But trust me you won't hear them on phone or out in front again
Anyway agree w Both of you
I know it's not being discussed here much but this is actually a really big deal in those circles , a lot of rackets could be in play , many jars with these guys, most you only read about but not their name
Glad it's state , they should be home in 5-6 maybe and they got enough $ and guys outside to keep at least something going
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 03:35 PM
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You ever hear e Westside boss threaten to sever someone's head off on tape, and throw his own name into the taped conversation just for shits and giggles? That's old and unrelated to New Jersey, but it's a fair analogy. "You tell him...I...me...John Gotti...will sever his motherf-----g head off!" yeah PB , Bobby manna did far worse "Go piss in the street, lady, this is a f-----g business meeting!"
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 04:26 PM
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"Go piss in the street, lady, this is a f-----g business meeting!" And they say chivalry's dead  . I love the bimbos who go on and on about how these guys "really know how to treat a girl." Yeah, an eight ball every Saturday until you're used up and looking like something out of Jerry Springer by the time you're forty years old. And for the record, I'm speaking more about the side pieces than the wives.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 04:34 PM
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So everyone please out but dinapoli he must be real sick cause they wanted global plea and usualy there firm wonder what scarfo takes or is he going to trial that will be a story with all the tapes from the pernas cars. I've been telling people here for YEARS how sick Joey Dee is. I saw him about six months ago at his nephew's restaurant and the poor guy was the color of concrete before it dries. And it's no act, either. That's a CLASS family (as far as the mob goes). They sheltered their kids, raised them in places like Scarsdale, and instilled a great work ethic into them. Some of their kids are fifty years old now and they're still putting twelve-hour days into their restaurants and catering halls. Compare that to what guys like John Gotti and Greg DePalma did with their sons.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust
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06/19/15 10:30 PM
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The golf club beating was supposed to be just that, a beating. It got out of hand and it went overboard. They were never supposed to kill him nor were their intentions to kill him. End of the day, it was fucked up and they never should of did that. A few punches and a gun in his mouth would of done the trick. It was a brutal way to die and law enforcement never forgot about the brutality and went on a mission to nail all of them hard. Thats why they are so hard on michael and marty. Marty will be out of jail the same time the "son of sam" gets released.
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