Agreed. I think there is a case to be made that Jenner can be a hero and looked up to in the transgender community. But not in general. There are better things worthy of our time and attention. You couldn't get away from this story. You could live under a rock and somehow the news would still reach you

Mignon, you are absolutely correct. There's scared children fighting for their lives trying to beat cancer and military returning without all their limbs or with brain damage. That's bravery.

Maybe he is just doing all the publicity to further the cause of the transgender community (anyone know where that is so I can stear clear?) in which case, argueably he might be described as a hero amongst their most deranged members. However, I suspect the real reason is hes getting paid "handsomely" for all the publicity and once again selling his worthless soul to the media. That is NOT a hero...

Great article

http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/04/why-bruce-jenner-can-never-be-a-woman/

"Transgendering is inherently sexist because it reduces people to the most shallow aspects of our sexuality and completely ignores our development as men and women."

Something I will never understand nonbinary gender, I met someone last night who told me they are neither a man or a women because they don't feel comfortable with being recognized as that. Now I don't care either way not my business but that has to be one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard

I don't believe that people should apologize for existing.

Some of you have expressed animosity towards towards the growing trend in America(and the West) to stigmatize White men, just for existing.That just by the fact that you are alive and breathing, that you are directly to blame for most of the worlds "isms"...racism, sexism,etc.

I've had discussions in real life with people for years where I expressed my feelings about people wanting me to apologize for BREATHING. Like I am personally responsible for every crime that ever took place and that I cannot move freely within society . I was told to stop playing the victim card, and I kid you not...many of these same folks are now expressing some of the same stuff I used to say. That they are made to feel directly responsible for female victims they never violated, Africans that they never enslaved, murdering people in death camps in Europe, or oppressing people that they never even met.That they must somehow apologize for living as a white male in America(or the West).

I've always said that unless or until something happens to you , it's VERY easy to dismiss it or trivialize it.


I said all that to say that whoever and whatever a person is, they shouldn't have to apologize for living and breathing air. Jenner and some real life people are being open and honest about who they are.I don't have to care, empathize with them, or accept it...but this is still America and they shouldn't have to apologize for being who they are.

that's a good statement nicky, but, these freaks keep it up, and keep it up, not caring who they offend, constantly throwing their perversions in peoples faces.

it's like two gay punks kissing in a public place, and saying they have a right to do it in front of people.

they are wrong -its offensive to people like myself who are not gay, and what about children seeing their sick display.

these people have got to be told that there are people in the world who find them sick and vulgar.

I agree 100%. Solid post gets, I always enjoy your insight

Good posts Gets, however there is a difference...black/white people (men specifically if you like) are who they are and whatever their feelings about how they are judged, we all either accept it, or do our bit to change wider perceptions. The difference with transgender is that, in my opinion, the individual expects others to entertain their fantasy...or else-it's simply not true that they are what they say they are. I find that extremely offensive-if I suddenly said my dog was a cat and demanded you always treat it that way, then threatened legal action against you if you refused to accept my lies, how would you feel? Especially if I COULD actually win the lawsuit...it's life imatating the old fable "the emporer's new clothes". It's not about live and let live, societies are slowly becoming more and more fucked up because of individuals thinking they are oppressed and subsequently being given a platform they never deserved to spout their threatening message of equality. I've said before, any race or gender etc who has REALLY suffered serious inequality, genocide, intolerance surely can't sympathize with transgender people-especially considering they'd have you believe theyve suffered just as much and expect the same level of airtime.

@Ferg,

I'm gonna follow my own advice about "until/unless it happens to you, it's easy to dismiss" and defer to you on your points.You were telling us about first hand experiences and legal issues which I absolutely have not experienced.Things that I'm not qualified to address...and which are very easy for me to overlook.

Touche,Ferg.

Just saying that people shouldn't have to apologize for who/what they are.

great post fergie, I hope you saw mine, im sick of people who threaten someone with legal action because they refuse them service. because they are gay, or transgender. a business should have the right to turn away whomever they want.

a private business is private,and should stay that way.

If two people of the same sex decide to kiss on public property you (not you individualy Binnie) have no right to say yet can't. They have every right to express themselves as if they were a straight couple, regardless if you feel ot is moral or not





100% right, private business should be able to serve who they want without any fear of lawsuit. Freedom= Do what yo want w/o limitation i.e to serve or not serve who you want).

now espn is giving IT the "Arthur Ash" courage award of the year,what a joke, we used to burn people at the stake for a lot less not that long ago(in the scope of human history), you know game of thrones style. now if someone has the audacity to speak out against this hero like snoop dog did the other day, hes the one that gets ostracized. what a great place the world has become.

Well said.

I would also add how it funny that if a person is anorexic, based on an incorrect and faulty image of themselves, they are diagnosed as sick and everyone agrees they should get treatment.

And yet, if a person has an incorrect and faulty image about what gender they really are, they are encouraged to indulge it and lauded for doing so.

The sickness and hypocrisy of the liberal mindset.

Just imagining the surgery alone brings me close to vomiting. My guess is that Bruce did this to embarrass the kardashian family. They have been running around 10 years acting like fools and embarrassing themselves and Bruce.
Now it's his turn. Still disgusting though.

But guys, would you sleep with him for a million bucks?? Some guy essentially will on whatever reality show spin off and he'll pretend he's in love with Bruceyboy etc...! Then they'll fall out and we'll get all the dramatic bullshit that follows..

Explain that one positively to the kids....

What bothers me the most about this is that it's consistently shoved down our throat that transgenderism should be considered "normal" behavior. And that anyone who thinks otherwise and has a different opinion on topics like this should be labeled a socially maladjusted degenerate.

You can't believe how much shit I get from a large amount of my peers when I openly state that I find there's something terribly wrong with transgenderism. Shit I find homosexual behavior pretty distasteful -without pointing my finger at the persons as INDIVIDUALS (I have met some gay men that as persons were alright), it's just the act I find distasteful- so I'm not going to lie and pretend I find there's anything normal with transsexualism because I find that ten times as worse. And if those people have the right to express themselves in their homosexual/transsexual/whatever way in public, I feel I have the right to express my opinion about it. Doesn't matter how negative that opinion might sound to a lot of people, it still is my opinion and I have every right to express that. Because everytime I see obvious transsexuals parading down the street in a major city -and yes also here in Europe in any major city there are plenty of obvious transsexuals and crossdressers walking around- my stomach turns at the sight of it. I'm not going to be violent against them, but it's just the sight of it that I find so distasteful that I can't help being disgusted.

But whenever I openly state outside of my own social circle (which is mostly composed of people who share my opinion on this matter) that I find transsexuals quite distasteful, I'm immediately labeled a sociopath. And that bothers me. Because transsexuals, who not in any way, shape or form practice what I call standard behavior are described as "normal". But I, as someone who expresses his own honest personal opinion on that matter -and I feel I do have the right to express my own fucking opinion as long as I'm not getting violent- on the other hand am considered "abnormal".

I know transgenders can't help the way they are. It's their nature. I get that. All well and good. But at the same time, I can't help my churning stomach either now can I?

Maybe you need a stomach readjustment operation to become normal again!

LMAO

@Killing Joke

I personally support transgender people, but you have a right to believe what you want to believe and say what you want to say. You're not acting violent towards the person and that's all anyone can ask for.

I consider it sad that almost everyone who considers themselves progressive these days will go SJW on anyone who disagrees with their twisted view of the world. And I'm not talking about political Democrats or regular liberals, but the internet types that go crazy and use made up terms like "girlfag" "cisgender" and "white privilege" whatever the hell any of that means.

Do you man. Don't let anyone think you're a psycho just because you have a different opinion. It isn't called freedom of speech for nothing

@ Rockstar_Man

Thanks. Exactly, everyone is free to believe what he/she thinks is right and everyone should be free to express that opinion. You support transgender people and that's fine, it's entitely your right to do so. I on the other hand will never support them. To me it's tasteless, that's just how I feel about it. And I just can't be hypocretical to others and tell them what THEY want to hear.

I support transgender as well, they always make me smile with their quasi feminine appearance...there's always a telltale sign though which keeps us straight guys safe at night...usually hands like shovels, clowns shoes and a voice that sounds like its sucked on 60 marlboro a day for 200 years.

Fairly accurate though.

I think a majority of people can agree that genital mutilation (gender reassignment surgery) is far from normal that is certainly not something I support because you are how "God" made you and that shouldn't be changed.

You can be okay with people doing what they want, as long as they don't interfere on your own life, you don't have to agree with the lifestyle. The idea of accepting someone's life choices without having to agree with lifestyle shouldn't be that hard of a concept to grasp. It is really nobody's business what an individual does, the problem is constantly shoving it in peoples faces trying to force people who have different views to accept it as "normal," which is certainly an understandable gripe people have, on both sides.

SJW are the worst, they generally are "Socialists" who say that they believe in free speech unless it is against what they believe, that is not free speech. Unfortunately you find intolerance of other views/opinions on both sides of the spectrum though.

people thought bruce jenner was the most sane kardashian....I GUESS THE FUCK NOT

i can see how most of the kardashian women are whores and the son is a total punk

Ice T has an interesting take on Bruce Jenner's transgender story
short audio clip

https://instaud.io/8he

Ice says that he's transfinancial....
he's a billionaire living in a broke man's body..gonna start a kickstarter campaign to raise a billion so people can help him be who he REALLY is

@Gets

LMAO
He'll probably really get some money out of this

Too bad Lord Jamar anytime he opens his mouth in an interview feels the need to somewhere make a borderline racist remark.

Concerning Jenner he has a very good point though.

I like that transfinancial joke lol. I've been hearing, ladies in particular, commenting on how pretty Caitlyn is