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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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06/25/15 05:21 PM
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If he was lower ranked he probabin OCy would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
Yeah he's got big rep in OC but he ain't involved in OC anymore so why does he give a flying fuck about what they say about him in the history books. If Orena cares that much about his reputation in OC that he is willing to spend the rest of his life in prison then the guy is fucking nuts.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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If he was lower ranked he probabin OCy would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
If Orena cares that much about his reputation in OC that he is willing to spend the rest of his life in prison then the guy is fucking nuts. You could say the same about Gigante, Persico, Scarfo, Gotti, Genovese etc. for that matter then 
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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If he was lower ranked he probabin OCy would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
If Orena cares that much about his reputation in OC that he is willing to spend the rest of his life in prison then the guy is fucking nuts. You could say the same about Gigante, Persico, Scarfo, Gotti, Genovese etc. for that matter then Gigante, Persico, Genovese and Gotti were still the family bosses when they were inside so different situation for them and Scarfo has always been a nut case.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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why does everyone get this point of view mob guys just rat left and right Because only the rats make the front page. When a soldier or a low profile skipper take it on the chin for a RICO predicate or what have you--and it happens A LOT more than when guys rat--you don't even hear about it if you're not a local or a mob groupie.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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The voice of reason. Neo to answer your question after 1 year of any federal conviction you can't cooperate its over. Oreana been in 23 yrs. Like they said maybe he's a old time gangster that took his medicine like alot others. I think just the threat of the death penalty makes all these guys flip fast nowadays. Joel eagerly could have took a deal and Tommy shots them guys are stand up and in front of the death penalty. That's all it is, a threat. They haven't executed a wiseguy in over fifty years. Look at the Basciano farce. They got their guilty verdict, but they were NEVER getting a New York City jury (Federal Case, but the jury pool is still gonna be made up of locals) to give him the needle. Not for those murders. Talk about a waste of Federal Tax Dollars  .
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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06/25/15 09:14 PM
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The voice of reason. Neo to answer your question after 1 year of any federal conviction you can't cooperate its over. Oreana been in 23 yrs. Like they said maybe he's a old time gangster that took his medicine like alot others. I think just the threat of the death penalty makes all these guys flip fast nowadays. Joel eagerly could have took a deal and Tommy shots them guys are stand up and in front of the death penalty. That's all it is, a threat. They haven't executed a wiseguy in over fifty years. Look at the Basciano farce. They got their guilty verdict, but they were NEVER getting a New York City jury (Federal Case, but the jury pool is still gonna be made up of locals) to give him the needle. Not for those murders. Talk about a waste of Federal Tax Dollars  . Vinny would have took the needle, regardless. It's just a scare tactic to get these guys to flip. Do any NY guys get executed? I honestly have no idea, I know they do out west and down south in the states. Check you're Pm over on the other site mate
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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Tommy shots is in so bad health a death sentence would be ideal, he could die any day.
I hope he does. Tonight. [/quote] If you google diabetes I'm sure you'll see Tommy's face.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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That's all it is, a threat. They haven't executed a wiseguy in over fifty years. Look at the Basciano farce. They got their guilty verdict, but they were NEVER getting a New York City jury (Federal Case, but the jury pool is still gonna be made up of locals) to give him the needle. Not for those murders. Talk about a waste of Federal Tax Dollars  . [/quote] Agree, complete waste of resources. The dollars they spent on bullshit like this should always be used to stop Terrorist hitting our Homeland, not neighborhood guys busting out tax free money and disciplining eachother. And to remain on Topic, Orena is Old school, just like the man he had by his side. Wild Bill. He would have done the same but they both got railroaded from inside by their own, with the help of the Fed, the Fed who should have been doing real work to protect us.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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If he was lower ranked he probably would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
He's a little late for that. Off the top of my head I can this of multiple bosses who ratted. Casso, Massino, Natale...definitely more than two,and then there's underbosses like gravano and leonetti. Even luciano did some talking at one point. I wonder if a consigleire has ever ratted while in office.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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Do any NY guys get executed? I honestly have no idea, I know they do out west and down south in the states. There's no death penalty in New York State anymore. It was briefly back on the books back in the '90s, early 2000's, but never used. It was the Feds looking for the death penalty in the Basciano case. Although they did give it to Ronell Wilson for killing two New York City cops, right around the same time as Vinny's death penalty case. But again, they took that case Federal and gave it to him using the Death Penalty for Cop Killers Act. Ironically, it was in Brooklyn Federal Court with Judge Garaufis residing. Two entirely different cases, though. The jury looked at the two guys that Vinny was convicted of killing (bottom feeding criminal lowlifes), and compared to Wilson (he killed two innocent cops who begged for their lives), Vinny's crimes looked like jaywalking charges.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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If he was lower ranked he probably would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
He's a little late for that. Off the top of my head I can this of multiple bosses who ratted. Casso, Massino, Natale...definitely more than two,and then there's underbosses like gravano and leonetti. Even luciano did some talking at one point. I wonder if a consigleire has ever ratted while in office. Alphonse "Little Al" D'Arco,,,, not consig but acting UB
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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06/25/15 09:49 PM
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Ah, wait, I see now where you mad the distinction. I misread Next time be more careful  .
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
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06/25/15 10:51 PM
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If he was lower ranked he probably would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
He's a little late for that. Off the top of my head I can this of multiple bosses who ratted. Casso, Massino, Natale...definitely more than two,and then there's underbosses like gravano and leonetti. Even luciano did some talking at one point. I wonder if a consigleire has ever ratted while in office. That is true. However, no other boss has been called the biggest rat since Massino. Its because he was the official, not acting or underboss. If Orena did choose to flip it would be all of the papers, even if it isn't as a shock like Massino or Gravano its still bad. Btw, didn't that Luciano tactically snitch on himself or was it something else?
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