Word around is that Boaton made two new guys......I'm sure Russo could confirm

Boston....

When you or Russo will have the names, share it here.

Salvatore Marino and Johhny Scarpelli.

St Louis family or Giordano crime family chart is very hard to made,I found this chart of the early 2000s,the most on the list are dead or don't even exist,I'm trying to find every info on it,so post the old chart,after will update it.

Boss-Anthony"Nino"Parrino
Underboss-Joseph"Joe" Cammarata
Consigliere-Giacomo"Jack"Parrino/Joseph Pisciotta

CAPTAINS:
Vincent"Vinny"Cammarata
Frank Palazzola

SOLDIERS:
Fernando"Nondo"Bartolotta
Richard Bommarito
James Castellano
Angelo Copo
Benedetto Gerimia
Vincent Giordano
Antonio Lopiccolo
Anthony Lopiparo
Anthony Olivastro
Phillip "Philly"Palazzola
Joseph Panneri
Anthony Tocco
Joseph Tocco

SICILIAN MINI CREW:
Benedetto Gerimia(made)
Angelo Copo(made)
1-2 others

EAST ST.LOUIS:
Fernando"Nondo"Bartolotta/Antonio Lopiccolo(both made)
Thomas Consiglio
Timothy Hinton
Leo Bartolotta
Robert Trask
1-3 more guys(most likely 1 or 2)

The list above is from an old poster named "salviardi" on the RD forum years ago. It's as BS as the Milwaukee charts "Milwaukee Phil" used to post that showed 30+ members for that family.

The only members I'm aware of Fernando "Nondo" Bartolotta (I think he's close to 60 now) and Frank Palazollo (should be in his early 70's).

I've seen Vincent "Vinny" Cammarata, Vincent Giordano, Giacomo "Jack" Parrino, and Joseph "Jack" Pisciotta listed as possibly made at times but I think some of them may be dead now.

Members who have died since 2000 include Dominic "Beaver" Biondo (2002), Joseph Crimini (2003), Joseph "Joe" Cammarata (2013), and Anthony "Nino" Parrino (2014).

This is what remains of the Cleveland Family


Joseph "Joe Loose" Iacobacci
James "Jimmy" Comella b.1960
Eugene* The Animal Ciasulo b.1931,retired in philadelphia in the early 80s
William "Billy" DeNova b.1940
William "Billy D" "Dileno b.1937
Ronald Lucarelli Jr b.1958
John Oliverio b.1952
Russell Papalardo b.1941
Salvatore Sam Sirna
Anthony Velotta

Members that flipped

Angelo Lonardo underboss
Carmen Zagaria associate
Anthony Delmonti associate


Members died since 2000

Bucci-Amato* Tuttie
Bucci-Ralph
Bussaca-Sam*
Carabbia-Ronald The Crab capo
Cupido-Joseph* Joe Capp
Gallo-Joseph capo
Iorillo-John
Sanzo-Peter Petey Boy

For info on the names,so some people don't say that I wrote bullishits

http://cobras.clevelandsgs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/1975cpd-criminal-roster.pdf
http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_16.html#
http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_16.html

Members died since 2000

Bucci-Amato* Tuttie
Bucci-Ralph
Bussaca-Sam*
Carabbia-Ronald The Crab capo
Cupido-Joseph* Joe Capp
Gallo-Joseph capo
Iorillo-John
Sanzo-Peter Petey Boy

For info on the names,so some people don't say that I wrote bullishits

I believe that Ronald Carabbia is alive.
Maybe this is why some say you "bullshits"?

FWIW, he's typing in a 2nd language dude.

And fuck, The Crab's still alive??? Has he got like, a walker or something at least?

With all due respect I understand that Furio's native tongue is not English.
However that's got nothing to do with the fact that RC Sr. is alive and well.

No, not at all. Just expressing my own surprise. I've been away from the boards for a while, and really only kept up with NY and Philly during that time.

I know some guys really wish that LCN is still thriving all across the US, secret sleeper cells and crews that have somehow managed to avoid detection and prosecution as the rest of the country's families are being all but obliterated.

Obviously the majority of us understand that's simply not true. The trouble is, as another poster pointed out, the spurious charts get posted and reposted ad nauseum, guys stumble across them, and confirmation bias convinces them they've hit the jack pot with indisputable proof.

Furio's a good guy, I don't think he's intentionally trying to antagonise, and he stated he was not claiming everything he posted as gospel.

Most understandable and yes I also understand that Furio is a good guy.

I'm really a Pittsburgh guy but RC is from my home town. That's the only reason I know he's alive. None of which is to say the Cleveland LCN is alive and well. The same story holds true for Pittsburgh. Both gone but not forgotten ;-(

I hear that, it's an interesting dynamic, the "old fellas", getting around, albeit (to paraphrase Jerry Capeci) very slowly. I can see where people may be misled, as many articles state the contrary. But I like to take a little bit of "local knowledge" alongside my hard up stats, and your post history indicates you know a fair bit about P'burgh.

Of his brothers, any idea if are they both dead? Charlie and Orlando? If my own old, outdated, all inclusive and recently rediscovered charts have any semblance of accuracy, Charles was deceased...?.

It's started with a pm of cheech that tells me that I was losing credibility by dint of making these charts.Now since we are on a forum and not in real life, cheech can also go to make blowjobs with the knee in the shit, and well says Mickey I don't pretend that the charts I write, are gospel. However, it's true, the Italian is my native language so it happens that I make some grammatical errors.

I love ya Cheech but you got owned there lad

Of his brothers, any idea if are they both dead? Charlie and Orlando? If my own old, outdated, all inclusive and recently rediscovered charts have any semblance of accuracy, Charles was deceased...?.

Charlie is still MIA. Some say he's alive and well in Vegas. Who knows??? Orlando is also alive and well. Must be good genes ;-)

Is my bad Ronald Carabbia is alive,but I think is retired,his brother Charles disappere in 1980,have no info on Orlando.
I'll try to find it.

Simply read my previous post.

re furio: i pm'd you as a courtesy instead of blasting you on the board. you are losing credibility (whether u ever had any is up for debate) by posting charts that are either
1) wrong
2) out of date
3) made up
I was trying to help you. its ok. its not the first time ive tried to help someone and have them attack me.

and sonnyb. youre a good dude. always respectful. one of thee best posters. but i can never be "owned"
ill be on my 5th rental property and relaxing at my country club while Furio is posting the san Jose chart.
im out, see you guys across the street.

Sorry, boys...
...all the stitches in the world
can't sew me together again.
Lay down. Lay down.
Gonna stretch me out
in Fernandez Funeral Home on 109th St.
Always knew I'd make a stop there...
...but a lot later
than a whole gang of people thought.
Last of the Mo-Ricans.
Well, maybe not the last.
Gail's gonna be a good mom.
New, improved Carlito Brigante.
Hope she uses the money to get out.
No room in this city
for big hearts like hers.
Sorry, baby.
I tried the best I could. Honest.
Can't come with me on this trip, though.
Gettin' the shakes now.
Last call for drinks. Bar's closin' down.
Sun's out.
Where we goin' for breakfast?
Don't wanna go far.
Rough night.
Tired baby...
...tired.

No peeky Panny. Classic.