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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: spmob]
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06/26/15 01:54 PM
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Oscarthedago
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Again, I'm not getting into a pissing match with a skunk...we can agree to disagree Luankuci. Both Scott D and Scott B have taken their interest and turned it into something positive. If you can't give credit where credit is due, so be it.
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: Mikey_Sunset]
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06/26/15 02:45 PM
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I don't see Nicodemo flipping. If he would have, he would have done it before pleading out because his info would have been more valuable then. You'll be lucky to cut your sentence in half now at best not to mention putting your family in danger. I just don't see it at this point. Do you actually see his wife (as young as she is) staying married to him for the rest of her life? If so, how is she being supported with him off the street? She owns over $1 million worth of real estate. She'll be fine. I don't know what the Philly market is like but in the Bay Area $1 million will buy you a fixer-upper in a questionable neighborhood. "The median sales price for homes in Philadelphia PA for Mar 15 to Jun 15 was $135,000. This represents an increase of 3.8%, or $5,000, compared to the prior quarter and a decrease of 9.1% compared to the prior year. http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Philadelphia-Pennsylvania/market-trends/
"I die outside; I die in jail. It don't matter to me," -John Franzese
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: spmob]
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06/26/15 03:58 PM
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Oscarthedago
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So basically it is very inexpensive to live there. And an increase of 3.8% is next to nothing in the game of real estate. Better off putting your money in the stock market for an average return of 10.8%.
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: Mikey_Sunset]
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06/26/15 04:14 PM
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mackinblack007
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I don't see Nicodemo flipping. If he would have, he would have done it before pleading out because his info would have been more valuable then. You'll be lucky to cut your sentence in half now at best not to mention putting your family in danger. I just don't see it at this point. Do you actually see his wife (as young as she is) staying married to him for the rest of her life? If so, how is she being supported with him off the street? She owns over $1 million worth of real estate. She'll be fine. I don't know what the Philly market is like but in the Bay Area $1 million will buy you a fixer-upper in a questionable neighborhood. good way to exaggerate.
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Re: Joey's in town
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06/26/15 07:19 PM
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I'm 100% with DB, if Skinny Joey cant immediately get his hands on 250K, then Philly LCN is at the level of just a bunch of blacks on the corner selling heroin. What people that aren't from the Northeast fail to realize I think are how big the Italian communities are here in NY/NJ/Philly and how much we like to gamble on sports. Here is a perfect example of a gambling ring bust in Bucks County back in March that not many people heard about that I would bet my life on was kicking up to whomever Philly has as their representative up that way in the Bucks County/Trenton, NJ area: http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pe...0314-story.htmlAND La Cosa Nostra in NJ/NY/Philly will ALWAYS control the gambling on sports, which is major $$$$$$.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: mightyhealthy]
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06/26/15 08:01 PM
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No joke. A cool mill can buy you some nice property in any city.
That ain't Ben Stiller in Luan's avatar. That was one of Jackie Aprile's bodyguards (I think) in the Sopranos. Good luck in most of NYC. You beat me to it. It will buy you a nice one bedroom in Manhattan. When I read the median income for a home in Philly, I had to do a double-take. That's the same price range as some places down in Florida. When you're from New Yok City or the surrounding suburbs all your life, you don't realize just how much more expensive everything here is. That said, I thought that Philly was a little more expensive that that.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: mightyhealthy]
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06/26/15 08:08 PM
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250k liquid is a decent amount for someone who JUST got off restrictions for the first time in 16 years and spends like he does. If he's been the boss all those years, even in the can, he should have more than that. And I'm not saying he doesn't. But he went away very young and had a release date that guaranteed he'd be back on the street at a young age. If Joe Schmo the Soldier from Philly comes home to nothing, that's one thing. It's like that everywhere. The myth about families being taken care of is exactly that, a myth, and it creates a lot of resentment. But not for a boss. If Ligambi was knowingly keeping the seat warm for Joey until he got out, he came home to a nice package.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: mightyhealthy]
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06/26/15 08:15 PM
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Oscarthedago
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But there is a difference having a person 250k liquid and getting your hands on that over a little bit of time. Bingo. I said $250k liquid, as in he has it packed away for legal bills, family emergency etc. any boss today should have $1 million tucked away just for major RICO trials or payoff money etc. guarantee Joey doesn't have it, that's why he has been supported by rich morons since the minute he was released from prison. Pathetic if you ask me. Why be a boss and take the risk? It's called "thug rich" and cash poor. He's just one of many who aren't smart with money.
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: pizzaboy]
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06/26/15 08:38 PM
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250k liquid is a decent amount for someone who JUST got off restrictions for the first time in 16 years and spends like he does. If he's been the boss all those years, even in the can, he should have more than that. And I'm not saying he doesn't. But he went away very young and had a release date that guaranteed he'd be back on the street at a young age. If Joe Schmo the Soldier from Philly comes home to nothing, that's one thing. It's like that everywhere. The myth about families being taken care of is exactly that, a myth, and it creates a lot of resentment. But not for a boss. If Ligambi was knowingly keeping the seat warm for Joey until he got out, he came home to a nice package. And he was. But it only came out with the skins tapes... Everyone was CONVINCED Ligambi was official All along he was acting for Joey
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Re: Joey's in town
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06/26/15 08:47 PM
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If Ligambi was knowingly keeping the seat warm for Joey until he got out, he came home to a nice package. And he was. But it only came out with the skins tapes... Everyone was CONVINCED Ligambi was official All along he was acting for Joey Then he came home to a nice package.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: pizzaboy]
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06/26/15 09:30 PM
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If Ligambi was knowingly keeping the seat warm for Joey until he got out, he came home to a nice package. And he was. But it only came out with the skins tapes... Everyone was CONVINCED Ligambi was official All along he was acting for Joey Then he came home to a nice package. Of course. Any of these people trying to act like Joey is broke are mistaken... I don't know where this 250 liquid thing comes from? But if I were a betting man I would be taking the over...
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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06/27/15 12:01 AM
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Oscar; in your opinion he doesn't have it. You can't guarantee he doesn't have it.
That is correct, but I'd be willing to bet everything I own based off FBI and Justice Department investigations as well as information from former members and wiretaps. I don't know for a fact, but his lifestyle has always been well documented.
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: pizzaboy]
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06/27/15 12:24 AM
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Oscarthedago
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If Ligambi was knowingly keeping the seat warm for Joey until he got out, he came home to a nice package. And he was. But it only came out with the skins tapes... Everyone was CONVINCED Ligambi was official All along he was acting for Joey Then he came home to a nice package. Nobody knows for certain if in fact Joey was boss all along, a plausible argument could be made for each assumption. Plus, Uncle Joe had two major RICO trials to pay for...did he cut into the take? Was Merlino's wife a lavish spender? There are so many variables that not one person here could accurately estimate because none of us know the exact figure of what these guys were making weekly. I made a statement based on a hypothesis to strike up some other opinions, so thank you all for adding to the thread. And PB, I agree, in the older days bosses in the can got their cut, but these guys today don't respect anything. And to whoever said the mob in Philly will always own gambling, you couldn't be more wrong. They may own gambling in the neighborhoods close to Passyunk and have some bookmakers out in the suburbs, but more citizens in greater Philly gamble in casinos, state lottery and through internet sites like Bodog. The mob has a small sector of the gamblers, their gambling proceeds were way more profitable in the old days...plus the job economy is bad, so many of your gamblers who have control of their vice are tightening the belt. The mob in Philly probably have bigger sports books, but the state lottery, scratch off tickets and local casinos easily have the lions share of gamblers.
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As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: Oscarthedago]
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06/27/15 01:37 AM
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Blackjack2121
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If Ligambi was knowingly keeping the seat warm for Joey until he got out, he came home to a nice package. And he was. But it only came out with the skins tapes... Everyone was CONVINCED Ligambi was official All along he was acting for Joey Then he came home to a nice package. Nobody knows for certain if in fact Joey was boss all along, a plausible argument could be made for each assumption. Plus, Uncle Joe had two major RICO trials to pay for...did he cut into the take? Was Merlino's wife a lavish spender? There are so many variables that not one person here could accurately estimate because none of us know the exact figure of what these guys were making weekly. I made a statement based on a hypothesis to strike up some other opinions, so thank you all for adding to the thread. And PB, I agree, in the older days bosses in the can got their cut, but these guys today don't respect anything. And to whoever said the mob in Philly will always own gambling, you couldn't be more wrong. They may own gambling in the neighborhoods close to Passyunk and have some bookmakers out in the suburbs, but more citizens in greater Philly gamble in casinos, state lottery and through internet sites like Bodog. The mob has a small sector of the gamblers, their gambling proceeds were way more profitable in the old days...plus the job economy is bad, so many of your gamblers who have control of their vice are tightening the belt. The mob in Philly probably have bigger sports books, but the state lottery, scratch off tickets and local casinos easily have the lions share of gamblers. Weird how you say nobody knows for certain if Joey was boss all that time...when there is far more evidence to support that then your claim of Joey not even being liquid for 250 k which is basically a wild guess. I mean what do you think Ligambi was official after Joey went to the can and half way or 3/4 through his term or whenever the La Griglia tapes were and then decided he wanted the official title and have Ligambi act for him?? What is more logical? That? Or that he was boss all along...??
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Re: Joey's in town
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06/27/15 10:09 AM
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Oscarthedago
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Blackjack,
Like I stated earlier, it is my belief that Joey doesn't have $250k lying around in savings. I never said I was right. In regards to who the boss was the entire time he was away, nobody knows for certain. Nobody could accurately discuss how much money Philly takes in a week and like I said, Ligambi had 2 RICO trials to pay for and he's a criminal, so who knows if he was dipping into his own money or under-reporting what the true figures were. Again, my common sense tells me when you are buying or leasing a Benz, Porsche, Ferrari and Bugatti immediately after being released from prison and attracting that kind of attention on a restaurant salary and reports of people supporting him, then I find it hard to believe that it's his money. Through the FBI/IRS and Justice Department reports in the past about Merlino, it doesn't seem to me that he stashes away a nickel. If he owned apartment buildings or other real estate holdings that he washed his dirty money with, then I stand corrected. I'm not saying your wrong, I just gave my opinion based off what I have read and what I have heard from some people I know who are close to South Philly. How much do you think Ligambi's two RICO trials were?
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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