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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: TommyGambino]
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07/11/15 01:00 PM
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i read once that tommy gambino was worth approx $70 million legally. tommy married frances lucchese, daughter of tommy. His brother Joe is worth just as much, so it probably didn't have much to do with marrying Lucchese's daughter. It's crazy when you think about it, Moussie the Philly UB got like 20 years for fucking poker machines few years back. Gambino brothers extorted the garment district for how long? And they only did a few years ad living free with there money. Did Mousie plea bargain and have 12 million in cash to pay the government? He went to trial and lost. And an even if did plea out, I doubt he could "show" a million, let alone 12 (and don't forget the "reparations" the Gambino brothers paid their "victims"). Don't forget, when you pay a large government fine, you MUST be able to "show" where it comes from. Money makes the world (and the Government) go around  . Apples and oranges, though.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: pmac]
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07/11/15 01:17 PM
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Sure they helped alot of legit people get more ahead in life. All with blood money P. Doesn't wash the sins away.
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: tjonezee]
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07/11/15 02:37 PM
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SonnyBlackstein
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Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing. The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses. He's been punished. In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society. And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: NickyWhip]
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07/11/15 03:00 PM
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According to Scott burnsteins recent article that someone posted a link to, there was supposed to be a big "family" meal at fat Angelo lutz restaurant in collingswood. Lol.
I can tell ya with fair certainty that the collingswood shop owners and civic association ain't gonna stand for too many of them meetings, IF it occurred. Anyone who knows collingswood knows it ain't private or secluded. Especially that restaurant.
Nice down here in ventnor this weekend serp. It is nice here ! I have 7 house guests and the rest at the Nuggett we are celebrating my godson B-day 21st !! it started last night ,and I don't see it stopping till mon am or tues.. Always liked that little town Collingwood I can't recall the name of spot we would go and eat at but I know the food was good.. 80's 90's
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I love this," "I just love this."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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07/11/15 03:03 PM
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Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing. The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses. He's been punished. In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society. And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh. For get about it " It's guilty till proven innocent ....period !
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I love this," "I just love this."
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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07/11/15 03:06 PM
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Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing. The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses. He's been punished. In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society. And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh. Unless he was on parole. I didn't follow the case. Was he on parole?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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07/12/15 02:26 AM
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K1NG6
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The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.
In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.
And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.
You make a very valid point, and in different cases I have different opinions on that one. I don't find it fair in every case, but I can also understand the government's stance. If you continue to commit the crimes, you obviously failed to be "reformed" after your prior convictions, and as such, there has to be an additional penalty to hopefully deter others from doing the same in the future. I don't have the statistics, but I would imagine that it really hasn't worked like they hoped it would. Regarding Mousie, he also has some sort of drug conviction on his record as well, not just the gambling and mob related racketeering offenses. But I'm with you on this one, he got hammered in that case. I believe he took the heaviest sentence out of everyone in that whole indictment. His partners in the video poker business either walked altogether (Ligambi) or received a lesser sentence (Staino). In fairness though, Staino got nailed to the wall too, seeing that he had no criminal history or arrest record prior to that indictment.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: K1NG6]
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07/12/15 09:40 AM
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He's a career criminal which is why he had the boOk thrown at him. He was a low-level as associate in the 80s and got busted with the scarfo guys for meth. Same bust my neighbor went down in.
The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.
In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.
And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.
You make a very valid point, and in different cases I have different opinions on that one. I don't find it fair in every case, but I can also understand the government's stance. If you continue to commit the crimes, you obviously failed to be "reformed" after your prior convictions, and as such, there has to be an additional penalty to hopefully deter others from doing the same in the future. I don't have the statistics, but I would imagine that it really hasn't worked like they hoped it would. Regarding Mousie, he also has some sort of drug conviction on his record as well, not just the gambling and mob related racketeering offenses. But I'm with you on this one, he got hammered in that case. I believe he took the heaviest sentence out of everyone in that whole indictment. His partners in the video poker business either walked altogether (Ligambi) or received a lesser sentence (Staino). In fairness though, Staino got nailed to the wall too, seeing that he had no criminal history or arrest record prior to that indictment.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: cookcounty]
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07/13/15 01:10 AM
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mackinblack007
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joey merlino is pretty much a gangbanger I know its not like his father wasnt a underboss, and he has been boss for 20 years.
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Re: Joey's in town
[Re: NickyWhip]
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07/13/15 02:04 PM
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K1NG6
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He's a career criminal which is why he had the boOk thrown at him. He was a low-level as associate in the 80s and got busted with the scarfo guys for meth. Same bust my neighbor went down in. Thanks, Whip. I thought it was a methamphetamine bust on Mousie's record but I wasn't 100% sure and couldn't find anything when I searched for it.
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