This all could be a prison lightning rod theory.

It's looking like this more and more.

You guys are crazy

First I was accused of being a multi-accounter, then I proved that wrong.
Now I'm being accused of being a troll.

I thought it was just me at first but then noticed alot of new members joining get accused of being muti-accounters & trolls. Like me, they just get hit with this crazy paranoid shit

You Pizza don't have to apologize, you write in Italian better than many people I know who go to university and speak Italian with a heavy Neapolitan accent. ;-)

Grazie, amico mio. Parli bene Inglese. Non smettere mai di credere in te stesso .

Back to English now. We have to respect the mods .

Quannu vedu suo nome, immaginu Furio Giunta su un laptop da Napoli.

There's wifi in Naples?

Il Vaticannu corre ce racchetta. No ah bitch-a me!

But who else do I have besides the Sicilian nephew that I never even asked for?

Your gomatta?

Christ, how I hate stereotypes. Especially when they're true.

Who wants clam chowder?

New England or Manhattan?

Is there any question?

Everyone knows New England Clam Chowder is far superior.

I agree completely, mh.

I think people watching the mob from the outside get hung up more on titles..."whos the boss? whos the underboss" what period did they control?... a lot more than the actual participants do.

It helps us keep everything neat and orderly for our little charts.
The reality is someone like Crea can give orders as he needs to, still get his envelopes and have plausible deniability if ever at trial of being "boss". It would seem to me to be the much smarter and more prudent technique to use when running a crime family. Create confusion. worked for the Genovese for decades. Those that need to know will know.
Only someone with a Gotti like ego would NEED the title but guys like that only come a long once in a generation and usually don't make it to the top...history shows big egos are usually cut down long before they get there.

Amuso probably has more control over his bodily functions at age 81. He's been in prison for almost 25 years and all his friends are in prison or just got out. How the hell would he know what's going on in the streets to make any decisions? Does he even have any brothers,cousins, or sons involved anymore? How does he get info in and out?

Your probably right but I bet he still gets plenty of cash flow from the Luccheses as tribute considering he is still the official boss.

His brother Robert was a capo with the Luccheses but is most likely retired by now.

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Is it believable that Amuso and Casso ended up together ( prison bus i think), after Casso has (tried) ratted out? And then Amuso says something lame like " i see you regret ratting".

I thought Amuso was convicted by the time Casso was caught.

Casso doesn't regret anything he does and he is where he belongs.

He decided to start ratting on feds, the dumbass, and they gave him life.

Yeah Amuso was convicted by the time Casso got caught.

^^. True. But what i find hard to believe is that Casso and Amuso were together on a prison bus after Casso turned rat.

He is just a hard head thinking the feds wanted to hear that there own were bad..
He was told a couple times that they were not here for that ,they wanted OC guys...

I believe he still gets some cut of the money, but I'm talking about control of the family. Guys like Persico and Gotti had dozens of family members and loyalists on the streets to keep them informed and to carry out their orders. Amuso had nobody as the Brooklyn faction was decimated.

His daughters husband is a soldier. Scarfo Jr was followd meetinghim. 5 6 yrs he Was boss all them guys owe him.

That's why he's probably still getting a cut. Can anyone name one thing that has happened in the last 10 years that shows he is still in control? The last thing I know of was the hit he ordered on DeFede and that turned out to be a disaster when DeFede flipped and helped put Louie Bagels away for life

Fucking semantics. The Feds and Capeci say he's the boss, so he's the boss. Amuso can by buy lots of candy and cookies from his comissary with all of the cash still being thrown his way.

Who's gonna shit on an iron, seatless toilet for the rest of his life, and who runs a dozen construction companies and lays out the day to day in the street?

Fine, Amuso's "The Boss," because it says so on a chart made up by Capeci and the Feds. But like I said, it's all semantics.

Go ask the Bronx and Westchester skippers where they get their marching orders. All roads lead to Tuckahoe and a storefront by Lehman High School.

i got a question

why are the genovese called the "westside" as a nickname

Chin used to play 2Pac's Hit'Em Up over and over real loud at the triangle social club on Sullivan so the feds couldn't record anything of importance. You could hear it everyday even from Houston St which is on the West Side of Manhattan.

I'm laughing, but you really should know that Houston Street runs east to west through the entire borough. From the East River to the Hudson River. But you knew that .

The Westside gets their nickname from their dominance on the West Side of Manhattan (namely the Village and further up West Street where they had a lock on the gay bars), and New Jersey (which is west of Manhattan).

I know, poor wording. I meant Sullivan St where the Triangle was on the city's westside, not that Houston stopped at 6th ave, although the Sicilians on Elizabeth probably would have preferred that. Mulberry St was bad enough.

I know you well, buddy. And I know that you know the layout of Manhattan as well as a native because of your exhaustive and extensive research (Atardi's a researcher and collaborator for one of the most well-written journals available on organized crime). And I told you that I knew that you knew it.

But it's true that you could hear "Hit'Em Up" from Houston straight up to Washington Square Park. Sullivan Street has great acoustics because of all of the five-story walkups. No high-rises down there. You should have seen it during the summer of '91. Heavy D's "Now That We Found Love" was all over the place. Vince would go so far as to take off his robe and do a little two-step.