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Re: Joey's in town [Re: TommyGambino] #850881
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
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Originally Posted By: faffy444
i read once that tommy gambino was worth approx $70 million legally. tommy married frances lucchese, daughter of tommy.

His brother Joe is worth just as much, so it probably didn't have much to do with marrying Lucchese's daughter.


It's crazy when you think about it, Moussie the Philly UB got like 20 years for fucking poker machines few years back. Gambino brothers extorted the garment district for how long? And they only did a few years ad living free with there money.

Did Mousie plea bargain and have 12 million in cash to pay the government?

He went to trial and lost. And an even if did plea out, I doubt he could "show" a million, let alone 12 (and don't forget the "reparations" the Gambino brothers paid their "victims").

Don't forget, when you pay a large government fine, you MUST be able to "show" where it comes from. Money makes the world (and the Government) go around wink.

Apples and oranges, though.


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I read the brothers gave millions to charity so they probaly had friends in high places all over nyc. Sure they helped alot of legit people get more ahead in life.

Re: Joey's in town [Re: pmac] #850885
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Sure they helped alot of legit people get more ahead in life.


All with blood money P.

Doesn't wash the sins away.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #850894
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Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing.

Re: Joey's in town [Re: tjonezee] #850897
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Originally Posted By: tjonezee
Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing.


The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.

In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.

And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Joey's in town [Re: NickyWhip] #850907
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Originally Posted By: NickyWhip
According to Scott burnsteins recent article that someone posted a link to, there was supposed to be a big "family" meal at fat Angelo lutz restaurant in collingswood. Lol.

I can tell ya with fair certainty that the collingswood shop owners and civic association ain't gonna stand for too many of them meetings, IF it occurred. Anyone who knows collingswood knows it ain't private or secluded. Especially that restaurant.

Nice down here in ventnor this weekend serp.


It is nice here ! I have 7 house guests and the rest at the Nuggett we are celebrating my godson B-day 21st !! it started last night ,and I don't see it stopping till mon am or tues..

Always liked that little town Collingwood I can't recall the name of spot we would go and eat at but I know the food was good.. 80's 90's


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #850910
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: tjonezee
Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing.


The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.

In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.

And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.



For get about it " It's guilty till proven innocent ....period !


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #850913
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: tjonezee
Mousie is like a 6 time convicted felon. That may be an exaggeration, but only slightly if so. I think that was the reason he got hammered at sentencing.


The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.

In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.

And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.


Unless he was on parole. I didn't follow the case. Was he on parole?


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #850918
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Just checked it out.

He was convicted of racketeering extortion (a gambling machine/slots company) 188 months/16yrs. Fed time. 85%. 2024 ish he's out. 75yrs old.


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MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #850938
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Whip : Heading out on the boat tonight where are you hanging ?
We will be tearing it up along the inter coastal ,then we are fishing the inlet between Longport and Ocean City till the weee hours ..


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #851025
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.

In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.

And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.



You make a very valid point, and in different cases I have different opinions on that one. I don't find it fair in every case, but I can also understand the government's stance. If you continue to commit the crimes, you obviously failed to be "reformed" after your prior convictions, and as such, there has to be an additional penalty to hopefully deter others from doing the same in the future. I don't have the statistics, but I would imagine that it really hasn't worked like they hoped it would.

Regarding Mousie, he also has some sort of drug conviction on his record as well, not just the gambling and mob related racketeering offenses. But I'm with you on this one, he got hammered in that case. I believe he took the heaviest sentence out of everyone in that whole indictment. His partners in the video poker business either walked altogether (Ligambi) or received a lesser sentence (Staino). In fairness though, Staino got nailed to the wall too, seeing that he had no criminal history or arrest record prior to that indictment.

Re: Joey's in town [Re: K1NG6] #851042
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He's a career criminal which is why he had the boOk thrown at him. He was a low-level as associate in the 80s and got busted with the scarfo guys for meth. Same bust my neighbor went down in.


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

The counter argument to that is he's served his time for those other offenses.
He's been punished.

In taking into account past offenses you're effectively punishing the guy again for the original crime. Which is oxymoronic to the whole purpose of paying your debt to society.

And it was only gambling. So it's a bullshit sentence tbh.



You make a very valid point, and in different cases I have different opinions on that one. I don't find it fair in every case, but I can also understand the government's stance. If you continue to commit the crimes, you obviously failed to be "reformed" after your prior convictions, and as such, there has to be an additional penalty to hopefully deter others from doing the same in the future. I don't have the statistics, but I would imagine that it really hasn't worked like they hoped it would.

Regarding Mousie, he also has some sort of drug conviction on his record as well, not just the gambling and mob related racketeering offenses. But I'm with you on this one, he got hammered in that case. I believe he took the heaviest sentence out of everyone in that whole indictment. His partners in the video poker business either walked altogether (Ligambi) or received a lesser sentence (Staino). In fairness though, Staino got nailed to the wall too, seeing that he had no criminal history or arrest record prior to that indictment.


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #851115
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Whip what is the neighbor that got pinched back in the day ?

Understood if you don't want to say the name...

Last edited by Serpiente; 07/12/15 03:22 PM.

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Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #851176
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joey merlino is pretty much a gangbanger

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
joey merlino is pretty much a gangbanger
I know its not like his father wasnt a underboss, and he has been boss for 20 years.

Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #851208
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he ran back to philly right after his parole restrictions were up

3 of their crews went to jail in the middle of a war, not a stopped war

they're a violent family with older members fresh outta jail and cranky

Re: Joey's in town [Re: spmob] #851210
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What the fuck has that got to do with gang banging cook?


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Joey's in town [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #851213
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
What the fuck has that got to do with gang banging cook?


Absolutely nothing.

I think he might be lost, confused, or in the wrong thread.

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@Serp - Next time I'm in Ventnor we will meet up and have a couple drinks.

And, it's nothing personal for the guys who contribute all the time on this site.


http://articles.philly.com/1987-06-18/news/26186308_1_indictment-crime-family-kingpin-statute


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #851220
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
What the fuck has that got to do with gang banging cook?



joey merlino acts more like a gangbanger than mafia leader

then he flaunted he was still in charge like a gang banger

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You see Joey riding around in a low rider flashing signs?
Dressing in red or blue. Shorts round his ankles?
Slinging crack on street corners?

You are lost. Or confused. Or both.
But why am I surprised. Look who Im talking too.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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joey being in town is showing his gang sign

his associates probably sell drugs

if you haven't noticed gangmembers wear tight clothes now-a-days of all colors

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
joey being in town is showing his gang sign

his associates probably sell drugs

if you haven't noticed gangmembers wear tight clothes now-a-days of all colors


What does this even mean?

Do YOU even know?

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Guys cook is too stupid for his own good. If you try to make sense of what he says you're IQ will drop or your head will explode. One of the two.

To quote Uncle Junior- "Some people are so far behind in a race that they actually believe they're leading"

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Originally Posted By: NickyWhip
He's a career criminal which is why he had the boOk thrown at him. He was a low-level as associate in the 80s and got busted with the scarfo guys for meth. Same bust my neighbor went down in.


Thanks, Whip. I thought it was a methamphetamine bust on Mousie's record but I wasn't 100% sure and couldn't find anything when I searched for it.

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It's unfortunate you see a new post on a particular thread your interested in and its somebody with some idiotic comments. Sad

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Originally Posted By: rockstar_man45
Guys cook is too stupid for his own good. If you try to make sense of what he says you're IQ will drop or your head will explode. One of the two.

To quote Uncle Junior- "Some people are so far behind in a race that they actually believe they're leading"


You got that shit right!

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Originally Posted By: NickyWhip
According to Scott burnsteins recent article that someone posted a link to, there was supposed to be a big "family" meal at fat Angelo lutz restaurant in collingswood. Lol.

I can tell ya with fair certainty that the collingswood shop owners and civic association ain't gonna stand for too many of them meetings, IF it occurred. Anyone who knows collingswood knows it ain't private or secluded. Especially that restaurant.

Nice down here in ventnor this weekend serp.


I live two blocks from Lutz place in Collingswood. What Are you talking about? Not private or secluded? They busted a guy with like four keys of coke who lived across the street from the police station a few years ago. I just don't know what you're getting at

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Serp and nicky whip i was in ac for bachelor party this past weekend saw Jimmy Norton..but me and my buddies went to Angelos for dinner Sat over by where Scarf inc was...I know I read about them.meeting at Angelonis in phils book but was "Angelos" a spot where they met at too or do I have shit confused..

random trip down memory lane went by the knife and fork too , my gpop lived in Ventnor last few years of his life, absolutely loved the food there


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The Jersey Shore
Angeloni's is ten times better than Angelo's.

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