I'm just wondering what LCN families are the strongest families outside of New York in terms of wealth and membership?

My personal picks in order:

#1 DeCavalcante family

#2 Chicago Outfit

#3 Philadelphia family

#4 Patriarca family

#5 Detroit family

Does that look right?

I believe the rest are too decimated to be considered a family.

bush's from texas,

Yes I know, thank you.

I have edited my post for more clarity on what families I'm referring to.

The Boise Idaho family may be the strongest in the nation.

Frankie Potatoes is the smartest boss. There's no doubt about that.

Harry Riccobene is the strongest boss. He isn't dead, since Santa Claus can't die.

Agreed

Isn't Harry The Hunchback dead? Thought he died just last year or the year before

He died 15 years ago. They are just playing around.

jokes aside

buffalo: since it started to induct black guys with italian first names its ranks have doubled

I couldn't disagree with you more, pizzaboy. Respectfully, of course.

Everybody knows that Spuds Santoro was way superior to Frankie.

Spuds had eyes on everybody. Nothing got past him.

LMFAO. I almost went with spuds instead of potatoes. I swear to God .

For real buffalo did or is a another joke ?

For me

Philly (was rebuilted under Ligambi)

Decavalcante (although it must suffer the competition of five families and philly)

Outfit

Detroit (20-30 made men are enought in a city were the white are the 20 % of the population)

Patriarca

Fucking hell.

Without a doubt the stronest family outside NYC is the Des Moines IA family. So low key and under the radar that LE doesn't have a clue what they're dealing with!

You also ranked the DeCavalcantes above the Outfit.
I wasn't sure how to rank those two.

Philly only has about 30 made men. The DeCavalcantes have around 50 made men.

the decavalcante must compete with the 5 family in north jersey and with philly in south jersey, have 4 crews while philly have at last 40 made men because after the 2000s many gangsters get out of prison to fill the ranks.

No, Philly have about 40-50, same with Decavs

Recent article on state of the Decavs

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/wiretaps_prison_death_take_toll_on_mob_family_that.html

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Philly sprang back good. I had them at 30.

I'm changing my list:

1. DeCavalcantes
2. Philly
3. Outfit
4. New England
5. Detroit

Yeah, I read Spuds Santoro has a thing with the Outfit and New Orleans. Sallie Spuds Santoro came up with video poker hidden in potato chip vending machines, which are now in all the clubs in Boise, Chicago and New Orleans. Word on the street is they are raking in the starch, and Frankie Potatoes is jealous at being cut out.

This thread had me laughing out. I hope I returned the favor.

1. Patriarca
2. Philly
3. DeCav
4. Outfit
5. Detroit


Coming from someone who stopped mob watching a while ago.

chicago
philly/detroit/new england
new jersey

chicago, detroit and new england have their territories for themselves

philly and jersey can't control their own states which is kinda pitiful

The DeCavs being the weakest crime family in New Jersey reminds me of how the Brits always lose at Wimbledon and The British Open. I have lots of Brit friends here, so don't shoot the messenger!

@Cook: I got the DVD in the mail Saturday. I already watched some of the "extras." I'm a fucking geek for production notes and DVD extras. It's gonna be too hot to go anywhere tomorrow because my Dad won't use the mini oxygen tank (on top of everything else, he has infrequent bouts of COPD during extreme weather).

Anyway, it looks like a perfect day for "Menace II Society."

The NY families have strong ties to Jersey, with plenty of Jersey guys in their families.

In Chicago, Detroit and New England the NY families have next to no guys there....or none at all.

I don't know much about Philly.

Nobody can mix it with the five families and given Jersey's close proximity to NY, the DeCavalcantes don't have a choice but to yield to them.

Maybe that is not a bad thing because Stango was heard on wiretap saying: "Now we answer to the fucking Gambinos.....which is a good thing."

It's what I just said,The decavalcantes must share the territory with the genovese and lucchese jersey factions that had more soldiers and power; plus two gambinos crew and a crew for the others families.

Philly must answer to NY,because all families out the big apple must answer to the 5 families,but Philly has the same soldier of the decav and was more free and powerful,and from the last 5 years more stand up guys went out and fill the rank and Ligambi rebuilt the family after 20 y of blood and chaos.

The patriarcas still strike fear but are only 30 made men between Boston and Providence

The Outfit had at least 28 made men was pretty active nad was focus on the white collar crimes with an alliance with the Outlaw mc for the street racket

The Detroit Partnership was the most stable and closed family out NY for me it's very charming both because a family whose territory consists only 20 percent of whites should have been dead, but they don't, through the use marriage between members and making new members only between those who are blood related.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=852335#Post852335

In this threat I made this charts of decavalcante,philly,detroit and patriarcas.