A lot of prison stories of getting their ass kicked but how about on the streets. Any stories of wiseguys taking a beating from civilians. Most wiseguys do not walk around with guns and a lot are out of shape middle aged guys who walk around thinking they're tough.

One story that comes to mind is that Gambino soldier who got beaten to death by a neighbor. And Gotti sent Gravano along with some guy from Jersey for retribution

Apart from wise guys taking a beating from civilians, how about each other? Bobby Boriello famously beat Preston up and the Gambino's wrongly assumed his death was at the hands of Preston.

Considering how many mob guys are in prison, and how often they go to prison, it seems there are relatively few stories of them being attacked. As I've said before, while they may not have the prison clout one sees in Goodfellas, it's not like they are easy prey either.

Don't know about beatings but that ex-cop shot Gambino capo Carmine Sciandra.

Thanks TG, I just looked up the story. That was some story I tell ya!!

Don't ever mess with a man's daughter.

Do u know the outcome? Story only goes so far as saying Sciandra refused to cooperate but the ex cop turned himself in plus there was CCTV footage so even without a cooperating witness the evidence speaks for itself

There's a story of that ex cop who helped a Genovese capo in Jersey while he was being attacked by two black guys. I forgot their names, but then the ex cop began working for the capo and was an informant. Apparently the Genovese guys knew he was an ex cop but didn't care.

shows their stupidity, can't see that happening years ago.

It was actually in the late 80s, if I'm not mistaken.

Andy Gerardo, here we go. This is a quote from his Mafia Wiki page.

"In the 1980's, Gerardo's crew was infiltrated by an ex-cop named Mike Russell, who one day by chance while driving down Bloomfield Avenue in North Newark saw two young guys attacking an older one. Russell went to the aid of the older man, driving off the attackers. He later discovered that the guy he'd helped was Andrew "Andy" Gerardo, now head of Boiardo's old gang. Gerardo invited Russell into his hangout, a coffee shop on the avenue just a few steps from a monument to Christopher Columbus and the Italian American contribution to America. There, Russell met other key members of the crew, who treated him like a hero and befriended him.

Russell then contacted a friend of his in the state police, who asked him to begin surveillance on the crew. Incredibly, the mobsters invited Russell to move his oil delivery business into a storefront adjoining their Newark headquarters, figuring he was friendly, and from there the investigation took off. But unbeknownst to the state police, Russell enlisted a cameraman and began his own videotaping of the crew, which provided most of the material for a documentary entitled "Confessions" which aired on HBO."


I've also seen the HBO thing and it wasn't THAT bad.

It was Carmine's brother who felt up his daughter and Carmine got shot for it

Sciandra didn't go after the guy, maybe he was told not to, who knows.

That was Franscesco Oliviero who murdered a member of the Cherry Hill Gambinos. I don't think they were civilians. The Oliviero family were drug dealers.

Yeah, Oilvieri murdered one of John Gambino's crew, not a made guy though. Gravano, Lorenzo Maninno, Ozzie Stantini & Bobby Bisaccia were the hit team, Bobby was the shooter, that got him made.

Robert Bisaccia a.k.a "Bobby" "Bobby Cabert" "Bob Romano"

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I don't see a wiseguy going around making trouble with random people. But I'm sure hey stick around what the know, especially if they're made. If they're made, they're known... And by known I mean by the Feds, so I'm sure they're more careful to get caught in a street brawl or something along those lines. And danger doesn't necessarily come from your physical ability. But from the crew you run with or your capacity for violence be it with a weapon or your hands, which for made guys is probably the former.

You don't put your hands on a made guy.

Carmine Sciandra got SHOT and the the shooter lived!

was the ex cop after carmine got shot given bail? because if he was locked up and then convicted then they might have not got the chance to kill him i know he is out now but carmine might not want the heat of killing him over something which happened ten years ago

Charges were dropped as Sciandra refused to cooperate.

i am supirsed by that then maybe sciandra did not want to kill him i dont know that is suprising because i always thought even in todays mafia that if you raised your hands to a made guy a capo espically you would be killed look at what happened to dom cirllos kid nick

You're not hearing me Tommy: You don't put your hands on a made guy! LOL.

Let us know how that goes.

@TheMafia

You've got to remember, Sciandra came up under Tommy Gambino, relatively non-violent crew, Tommy got him his button in 1986. Big earner but non violent approach just like his mentor, maybe he didn't want the heat or maybe the Gambino admin told him to drop it, who knows.

JG Jr. got stabbed a few years ago.

I wonder what happened to that guy.

Bruno up in Springfield got shot by a an independent bookie/barber and no retribution was ever made.

There's a bunch of turkish gangsters that run the local drug trade, plus probably import/ export, run card games, etc

I know nothing about Turkish OC and beat up one of them over a decade ago. Random neighborhood fight

Now- my point is, if you've never heard of a "made guy" his badge only goes so far. The guy I smacked up could have been a turk Roy demeo for all I know...

How about they just throw the guy a beating to save face

I think it's very rare for a mobster to get attacked especially a made guy sure on a very rare occasion it might happen but it almost never happens.

What makes u think that? Like I said in an earlier post, most made guys are middle aged out of shape/ on a power trip

Inside their neighborhoods I can imagine they're pretty safe but wiseguys like to drive all over the city. And road rage is very common. I don't think the average tough guy non LCN related ie blacks or Hispanics give two damns

Huh? Bruno was killed on orders from NY. And the guys behind it (Tranghese, Arilotta) were members.

Pretty sure he's talking about when Bruno was shot by Vito Ricciardi, but Bruno was wearing a bullet proof vest.

Thats exactly why they don't go into these neighbourhoods you won't see a wiseguy at some housing project they don't go into these areas because you are right they won't know who they are but most groups respect and fear la costra nostra even in prison they rarely get attacked there is fights every day in prison and when a mobster gets hurt all of us talk about it shows how rare it is mobsters stick to themselves they don't associate with other groups its why there is no confrontation in prison and on the streets they just don't mix. Mobsters have there own way of doing things plus anyone big time knows a mobster its why the five families have thousands of associates.

The only group to have confrontation with the mafia that I can think of is the Albanians and look at how that turned out they had that meeting with arnold and the gambinos and they backed down they knew the mafia is too strong to be fucked with and the feds recently said that just before the Albanians had been arrested the lucheses had been planning on whacking all the Albanians in so the feds arrested the Albanians early so there would be no violencen