Sittite gave me this 2 name Salvatore Marino,Johhny Scarpelli that was made in the Patriarcas,anyone knows the names or when the induction cerimonies had take place after the 2000s in the small families ?

Thanks

Philly
Canalichio, Lou fazzini, dom grande,i think nicedmeo was made after 2000s,Vince Filipelli,Eric Esposito

Patriaca family Anthony DiNunzio jr

Someone put a list of the Philly ceremonies on this site before.

Ligambi said on the Skins tapes that he made 7 guys up until as of 2010.

5 in one ceremony, think it was 2003, Nicodemo, Staino, Canalichio, can't remember the others.

2007 ceremony was Fazzini & Esposito.

2011- Dom Grande, Sonny Mazzone, Joseph Servidio.

Do you mean Louis Dinunzio, who I think is Anthony's son? Or is this a different guy?

philly is probably the brokest of all the families outside of ny/chicago

I think Philly are definitely top heavy, the admin and capo's probably eat alright and the odd soldier but the rest would be better off getting 9-5's! I guess they don't know anything different though.

They are definitely a street level operation.

Come on tommy, you dont what the avg philly guys make anymore than cookcounty does(which is none...). We all know how you feel about philly by now, and posts like yours above are just getting redundant and are no better than cook's lame attempts at trolling.

I'm just going off some of the recent indictments Dell,. A lot of the Philly posters on here say the pot isn't big enough for these guys.

Hardly trolling, is it?

I read a lot on here about people basing families action or their ability off of recent indictments. But that's odd to me shouldn't it be somewhat backwards... Because if that is the case the Genovese are all but dead. But I do get it, indictment means action, it's just odd.

You clearly don't keep track of LCN indictments, because the Westside are regularly getting indicted, that's a fact.

By the way when I talked about the Philly indictments no being good, I meant in terms of the low level loans, Philly are clearly a very active family.

Boston guy Darrin buffalino read in 07 08.

Double.

Yup. I can show ya a list of Genovese indictments as long as your leg.

I'm sorry but anyone who thinks indictments are not the best way to judge a family's activity - especially over the long term - doesn't know what they're talking about.

Yearh I meant louis DiNunzio he got made. I read somewhere that Anthony did not want louis getting favouritism so he made sure that he was not in the DiNunzio crew he got put in a another capos crew

Ny/Chicago?

Are you actually insinuating that Chicago can be mentioned in the same breath as NY?

if u didn't sum up all 5 families against one chicago family then yeah

the five families are in competition with 5 families, plus chicago has a recruitment pool

chicago has alot of land for people to roam with little competition and corruption

In competition with NY

Whatever recruitment pool the Outfit still has, it has stopped it's membership from shrinking by more than half over the last 15-20 years. All the of the NY families have kept their memberships stable over that time. Going by the latest estimates, the smallest NY family is 4 times the size of the Outfit.

Really " would have never thought that . There is a whole lot of room out there , and Canada just to the north .
Wow they need to step it up. Well unless it's LE holding them down ??

How many made guys approximately are there in Chicago because I would be suprised if it was below 25 I would think it would be between 30 and 35 but I don't know much about Chicago

Feds say 28, probably about 35 imo.

In their defense, they've always kind of bastardized traditional LCN (as least as Lucky and company set it up). Aren't made guys either 1) upper echelon, 2) middle management, or 3) well respected/ tenured soldiers?

I've always had mixed feelings on the shrinking hiring pool argument. There are tens of thousands of Italians in places like Philly, Chicago, Detroit, New England. I know that most are assimilated, but some kids will still want to be dope dealers (which seems like the future for alot of these street gangs). Made guys want earners so their envelopes get fatter. You'd think at some point they brush shoulders with younger crooks, maybe even college educated ones. So take a kid under your wing, school him on the gambling, other rackets, feel him out for loyalty (which is just as much a risk as anybody in the life these days), and if he works he works. They don't know the street cause they grew up in suburbs but seems like it can be taught over time. Plenty of wiseguys aren't from "the neighborhood".

That being said, when I hopefully open my own law practice some day, I won't be limiting my intern hiring to only full blooded (or close) Italians. Maybe it's harder in practice.

Chicago's peak for made guys was around 100, give or take. I'd say around 50 made guys today. Right on pace with all the other families. 50%.

Any sources for the 100 made guys Nicky? I thought Chicago were more or less 50-60 at peak with a shit load of associates.

Don't have a source for that, although I do remember reading it. I've heard as low as 75, but 50 would be a little low during the peak of it all.

Manocchio was at the helm of NE for over a decade, you guys think he made only 1 or 2 guys in his 13 year run, hardly.... There were 3 ceremonies 2000, 2003 and 2007....

I love it-he doesn't want his son to receive any special treatment....but he made him at like 22....cause everybody gets fast tracked like that -nothing special. Then after he signs the kid up for a life of crime he lets him follow some other guys orders.......Fucking joke.

ivy won't every understand that chicago doesn't have 100 hands in the same piggy bank

if giancana didn't have 80 guys then why would they need them now

ny makes people just to keep up numbers not because the guy deserved

Depends on what NY fam you're discussing. It is obvious that the Colombo's are their own tier of futility. Maybe the Bs too.

Yep, no rocket scientists in this club! Wasn't Albie Folcarelli from Providence made in recent years? Also, what about Giangrande? He's tight with Angelesco, isn't he?