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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Reminds me, PB, saw pope of Greenwich village on A movie channel the other day... Any good? One of my favorite New York films of all-time. I used the Mickey Rourke avatar from that movie here for years. Filmed in the summer and fall of '83, when Downtown was still Downtown. You have no idea what is was like, my boy   .
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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LBI is known as "The Hamptons of New Jersey" I used to spend a lot of time there, I've been to LBI twice this summer- beautiful beaches and great bars that are more my style of bar than the scene a little bit further north in Seaside. Beautiful place. Absolutely beautiful. It's The Hamptons without the pretension. Well, less pretension, anyway. We have a house in LBI. We go every weekend in the summer. Night and day versus the rest of the jersey shore. Real family friendly with almost no riff raff. Perfect if u have young kids. Only thing is most of the restaurants suck especially for what they charge. Surf City is the best town on the island. Perfect mix of activity and quiet. Love it down here except for the crab that took a chunk out of my foot while I was surfing two days ago. Hurts like hell 
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Downtown must have stopped being downtown pretty soon after that. When did if "turn" if you will. The real changes started in the late '80s, early '90s. But it happened fast. I mean, like, lightning fast. If Gotti didn't get sent up for life, he would have had to move his operations back to Queens by 2000. And I'm not even kidding. At the 2010 census, there wasn't a single Italian- born resident living in the 10013 Zip Code (Little Italy).
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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LBI is known as "The Hamptons of New Jersey" I used to spend a lot of time there, I've been to LBI twice this summer- beautiful beaches and great bars that are more my style of bar than the scene a little bit further north in Seaside. Beautiful place. Absolutely beautiful. It's The Hamptons without the pretension. Well, less pretension, anyway. We have a house in LBI. We go every weekend in the summer. Night and day versus the rest of the jersey shore. Real family friendly with almost no riff raff. Perfect if u have young kids. Only thing is most of the restaurants suck especially for what they charge. Surf City is the best town on the island. Perfect mix of activity and quiet. Love it down here except for the crab that took a chunk out of my foot while I was surfing two days ago. Hurts like hell We're in Beach Haven almost 20 years. There's some good restaurants down at this end- the Gables, the Engleside. LA Spiaggia up near the causeway is good. Yellow Fin in surf city too.
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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PB, I heard the whole Gotti fiasco led to the downfall of Little Italy because the government ended up buying all the buildings in the area and doing whatever they wish with them. Any truth to that? No. It was the gentrification more than anything else. And Bloomberg's branding of NYC, coupled with his coziness with the real estate lobby, that turned some Lower Manhattan Zip Codes into the wealthiest in the entire country. SoHo, Tribeca and the Village are Hollywood East today. It's honestly very sad in a lot of ways.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Steve Riggio started out years ago PB selling books on the street Downtown in Lower Manhattan , he would go on to starting the BN Empire. His Uncle was a Old Timer "Chick Wilson" Anytime cheech. You can pick it up at like one if the two Barnes and Noble left in CT. Amazing how BN put 90 percent of long-time, family-owned bookstores out of business virtually overnight back in the '90s, and now they're slowly but surely getting torched by Internet sales and the almighty ebook. Some would call that justice. I do enjoy Barnes and Noble because you can sit there for an hour or two with a cup of coffee and a real book (I rarely read a book on my tablet unless it's absolutely necessary). But they're dropping like flies. The Borders chain has been done for a few years now. It's only a matter of time for BN. What comes around goes around. You mean to tell me two dudes named Barnes & Noble didn't start "Barnes & Noble"? No shit!
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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You mean to tell me two dudes named Barnes & Noble didn't start "Barnes & Noble"? No shit!
Two dudes named Noble & Hinds started it (Hinds first). Barnes bought in a few years later. Barnes & Noble originated in 1886 with a bookstore called Arthur Hinds & Company, located in the Cooper Union Building in New York City.[8][9] In the fall of 1886, Gilbert Clifford Noble, a then-recent Harvard graduate from Westfield, Massachusetts, was hired to work there as a clerk.[10] In 1894 Noble was made a partner, and the name of the shop was changed to Hinds & Noble.[11] In 1901 Hinds & Noble moved to 31–35 W. 15th Street.[12]
In 1917, Noble bought out Hinds and entered into a partnership with William Barnes, son of his old friend Charles; the name of the store was changed accordingly to Barnes & Noble.[13][14
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I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Two dudes named Noble & Hinds started it (Hinds first). I believe that Downtown's point was that it was the Riggios who turned the chain into a behemoth (at its peak, because, unfortunately, as everyone has alluded to, bookstores are dropping like flies). And I tend to agree with him. And then there's the sinister side that I also alluded to. They killed the independent bookstore virtually overnight back in the '90s. And now they're being eaten alive by Internet sales and the almighty ebook. I'd call it karma, but business is business. And machines and technology of some sort have been putting people out of work since they invented the wheel.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Well yes, Riggio made it a national chain. Thats clear But there was a Barnes and a Noble. (I imagine them looking like the Smith brothers from the cough drops ). And I agree about it not being karma, just business evolution. All the book chains have gone the way of the dinosaur- B Dalton, Waldenbooks. Oddly, the UK chain Waterstone's is doing well. I always enjoyed the independent stores more. Shakespeare and Co on Broadway was a personal favorite, Three Lives in tbe Village is still hanging in, and so is the Strand which is bibliophile heaven.
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All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Reminds me, PB, saw pope of Greenwich village on A movie channel the other day... Any good? One of my favorite New York films of all-time. I used the Mickey Rourke avatar from that movie here for years. Filmed in the summer and fall of '83, when Downtown was still Downtown. You have no idea what is was like, my boy . Any truth to the rumor that the Bedbug Eddy character was loosely based on Chin?
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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and so is the Strand which is bibliophile heaven. That place is a National Treasure, not just New York City. Crawford Doyle is still open uptown on Madison. But I'm not an Upper East Side kinda guy.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Any truth to the rumor that the Bedbug Eddy character was loosely based on Chin? Probably. The book alludes to a crazy act, but the film portrays him as genuinely hot-tempered and he doesn't wear a bathrobe lol.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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and so is the Strand which is bibliophile heaven. That place is a National Treasure, not just New York City. When I was a kid I used to dream of getting locked in there overnight the way other kids dream of getting locked in a candy store
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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and so is the Strand which is bibliophile heaven. That place is a National Treasure, not just New York City. When I was a kid I used to dream of getting locked in there overnight the way other kids dream of getting locked in a candy store Most of the guys I grew up with ended up locked up, too. Of course, most of them couldn't read  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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and so is the Strand which is bibliophile heaven. That place is a National Treasure, not just New York City. When I was a kid I used to dream of getting locked in there overnight the way other kids dream of getting locked in a candy store Most of the guys I grew up with ended up locked up, too. Of course, most of them couldn't read .  Some of the guys that went off to 'college' - which was the popular euphemism in Dyker where I grew up- used to read their first books there
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All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Some of the guys that went off to 'college' - which was the popular euphemism in Dyker where I grew up- used to read their first books there There's a lot of truth to that statement because some cons actually learn to read in prison, not just wiseguys.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Fun With Dick and Jane in Allenwood
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Re: Barney Bellomo, Steve Crea
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Tom Hanks killed the small bookstore. Hey, Sonny. You've Got Mail. Now tell me that's not the smartest double entendre you've ever heard  .
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