Allow me to be honest in return. It's the utter bullshit you posted above that's a prime example of the complete inability of so many black people to look past their own skin color and see things objectively.

I mean, who the hell do you think you're kidding? Zimmerman is no boy scout but Treyvon attacked him and was killed in self defense. Officer Wilson was completely justified in shooting Michael Brown who, let's not forget, bullied and robbed a store clerk not long before he attacked Wilson. The investigation and eye witnesses bore this out and Browns buddy was shown to be a liar. Both Treyvon and Brown were just ghetto thugs who likely would have ended up in prison on the tax payers dime. Their deaths were no loss to society. And before you come here and run your mouth, try doing some research and compare the numbers of blacks killed by other blacks and those killed by cops. There is no comparison. But you have more to fear from the cops? Get the hell out of here.

To paraphrase Warren Beatty in the movie Bulworth, until you people put down the chicken wings and malt liquor and get behind someone other than thugs who rob convenience stores and attack cops, you'll never go anywhere.

@ Nicholas.

Martin Scorsese was once quoted as saying that the most realistic film ever made about Italian-Americans was "Fatso," directed by Anne Bancroft (whose given name was Anna Maria Louisa Italiano), and starring Dom DeLuise. I'm sure you can find the quote on Google.

And I happen to agree with him. It's an hysterical black comedy, and there's not a single cafone or gangster in the entire film. If you've never seen it, check it out. It's all about family, not "The Family."

so what you and others try to do is say there should be no crime in black neighborhoods before something is done about certain bs?Let me tell you that stuff you are talking is apple and oranges.Those dirt poor guys killing each other over drugs is no different than the mob murders that happened in the 1930's over alcohol; poverty drives crime decriminalize drugs and crap goes away. Who gets killed over selling alcohol now? no freaking body!!!.Black folks with well-paying jobs are not committing violent crimes,but they are at risk of getting smoked by a cop or KKK type still.Trayvon got killed in a gated community his father could afford to live in.This website is about stone killers by the way.should i stereotype all Italians? hell no I not better than that.

The police killings we have seen on video is the STATE killing people for trivial stuff. The Trayvon Martin stuff? Zimmermann has six different mug shots, how did he get them? and you believe him? You heard the 911 operator tell him to do nothing because the cops were on the way just like I did. Darren Wilson got fired from a police dept(Jennings, Mo) that got disbanded for racism but I am going to believe him?

Dude we played touch football in the street all the time.The cops never told us to get the f out the street like that POS did.Also, I lived(married to an STL girl) in St Louis for six yrs I know way more about the crap that goes on there with the cops than you do, i can tell you some stories.Ferguson has had about one homicide a yr for the last 15 years.that is not a crime riddled town, my inlaws live 5 minutes from there.I never worried about the cops there when i lived there, but I would not drive thru Jennings Missouri where Darren Wilson and those other goons were working before they ALL got fired. How do you know how those guys lives would have turned out? neither had a juvenile record so how can you say that? they were both in school. We saw how Wilson and Zimmermann were acting before those incidents. If they had juvenile records you better believe some low life would have leaked it. So let's agree to disagree, I know the deal with you. Your lil malt liquor and chicken wings statement tells me everything i need to know about where you coming from. Also, I better not see any folks rioting over a football or hockey game again since you talking about riots.

Just to dispel some myths posted here.

1) Poverty has demonstrated a minor correlation with violent crime, but not been shown to have causitive effect. A much higher correlation can be drawn to violent crime between income negligible racial groupings. Is, high income black people still commit higher crimes than whites or Asians of lower income brackets. Your attempt to compare today's black youth associated violence with that of 1930s American mobsters is unjustifiable. Care to compare the rates of crime between Prohibition era mobsters and gang bangers of today? Raheem and Trayvon make Luciano and Capone look like Ghandi.


2) A 911 dispatch(not an officer) has no legal bearing to tell someone to do anything. They are not officers. Should Zimmerman have followed that kid? Probably not. Should Trayvon have smashed his head into the ground after circling back to confront him? Again, likely not. Don't forget, TrayTray reached the safety of his fathers house before turning back. He initiated violence.

3)

I agree with your third point.

Dam Moe does anything get by you ...

You are obviously cookcounty 2.0 so it's futile to even attempt to reason with you. So just a few points...

People may not be killed selling alcool but more die from the effects of it (disease, traffic accidents, etc) than ever did during Prohibition years ago or as a result of illegal drugs today. Blaming digs being illegal, besides being innacurate, is just a cop out.

Your KKK comment is absurd. It's 2015. Not 1915.

And Wison resigned his position. He was not fired. But you obviously don't want to be confused with the facts.

Chill, Ivy. We get it. You're racist.

This is an OC board lets keep it that way.

Okay, now THAT'S was funny .

Stating the facts and not buying into BS makes me racist?

You're right.

We're still lynching Black people. Black people still can't ride the front of the bus or use public restrooms. Black people still can't go on to become professionals or wealthy businessmen. Black people still can't eat in certain restaurants or stay in certain hotels. Black people haven't become BILLIONAIRES in the Hip-Hop industry. Black people can't become President (oh, wait).

You're right. Nothing's changed since Selma .

I've heard of Fatso, and I've seen a bit of it. For a 1980 film, it certainly was a head of it's time. Thank you for the background on Anne Bancroft.


Not to get too off topic, for someone my age, I am a tremendous film buff. Tremendous. I've seen films most people have not, particularly young cinemaphiles who claim they want to be "actors", there's tons out here. Fuckers.


In no particular order my favorite films:

Thief with James Caan (favorite crime film, and when people ask I always say, "Thief. With James Caan."

Three Kings
Top Gun
On Officer and a Gentleman
Navy SEALS "With Charlie Sheen" (1990)
Terms of Endearment....Yeah
Stand by Me

Stand by Me is The Sandlot for kids who grew up in a realistic environment. Interpret "realistic environment" however you like.

sir that first statement is flat out wrong I bet my bottom dollar I know way more skilled black folks across the country than you.i can tell you they are not committing crimes.If I show my friends that stuff they would laugh out loud and say get the F out of here!.You do not know any middle and upper-class black folks if you believe that.Here is a common scenario, the man works at the post office his wife is an RN do you really think folks like that are committing crimes? they can afford a nice house and cars in most places in America easily.I know scores of black people like them because I am a licensed aircraft mechanic who worked at two airlines and those brothers I worked with were married to educated black women.Those mother effers are not committing crimes.


Why would you defend a liar like that guy.there is no freaking way I can do what he did and walk, that same jury would have convicted my black behind.Are you willing to tell me why we constantly hear about some black man getting out of jail after being falsely railroaded into prison?Those numbers are well over 100, who lied on them?


George Zimmerman has had seven situations where the police were involved, all but one (a traffic stop) involved violence, four involved guns, three involved domestic battery, two which involved guns, and one resulted in the death of someone.
Zimmerman is now officially self-identified as a racist. Not that it was a big secret. But now there is no way the killer of Trayvon Martin can pretend. He is now selling confederate flag art

http://time.com/4001437/george-zimmerman-confederate-flag-painting/

Pizza you know better than that lol. Those same folks you named can get blown away by a racist or crooked cop still, hell they killed MLK. I will not argue with you about what can be done in this country.My old man left my moms with seven kids; we were poor as shit. But we all got our educations and have good jobs; no jail, drug or teen pregnancies. But anybody who tells me there is not a ton of racism in America is lying.Every white person in America knows a racist white. I can tell you a ton of stories about racist crap. i am 56 yrs old just like you and not saying the KKK is behind every tree, but i would be naive as hell to think there are not a gang of racists still out here doing dirt

I have had 200 laborers work for me over the years of all races ,and without a doubt they were all equally racist . Every flavor under the rainbow !

I'm only racist against police and
Jews.

A small point off my fence sitting:




This is a serious problem with Americans, generally the right.

The reduction of the value of life to a monetary amount.

The above statement implies it is better they were killed due to their resultant probable incarceration and its associated costs being a negative loss on society.

What a truly horrendous thing to say.

And I'm fond of and respect Ivy but this is a poor attitude.

Sonny well said.

In the eternal sense it's a big loss. And certainly a loss to their families in the here and now. But in terms of our society at present, sorry, but it's just not a loss. Both were on a one way trip to prison. Forget about the cost to tax payers, what about their likely victims in the future? The only negative result of their demise was other blacks making them out to be martyrs, demonizing the police, and using it all as an excuse to throw their typical tantrums of rioting, looting, and attacking cops and innocent people.

Notice how little to nothing has been said about the underlying problems in the black community that gave rise to all these shootings by police. It's an unspoken admission by both the media and the black community itself that this is what we should expect from blacks and it's the cops who have to change.

But enough has been said about Treyvon, Brown, and a dozen others put down by the cops.

Back to Joey Merlino...

This is the same dangerous argument Ivy. You can throw in all the 'buts' you want, its very dangerous ground.

What about the childrens cancer ward at your local hospital. What do they, have they ever contributed to society? Nothing but a financial burden for society. And most of them will just continue to do so then die.
Wouldnt society be better off without them?

Or are their deaths not a loss?

What about the old, the physically disabled? The mentally disabled? The sick etc etc?


Measuring life in monetary context is a slippery slope. One you dont want to go down.
No matter the 'ifs' or 'buts'.





I think thats best...

And I can bet you the same people can show you a racist black too. Quit making it out like we're the only racist mf'ers out here!

To try to steer it back, I think it brings too much heat on Joey. Anyone ever see footage of Joey's Christmas party for kids where the kid comes up and says to Joey " Your my Idol"? Jim Maher (FBI)apparently shit a brick over this after seeing it. May try to be a litte quieter this time around, then again this is Joey Merlino we are talking about.i

You are not ,whites and blacks they are all equally racist . And if blacks ruled the USA the whites would be the race crying "racist"
It's just the way it is ! and it will not change till all the kids in this would are all the same color.

So till then ,what are you going to do , be the majority and be called a racist !

http://articles.philly.com/1999-10-17/ne...ny-joey-merlino