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Re: Bergen County [Re: mightyhealthy] #859597
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Agree with you, MH.

BUT the mandatory minimums of that state(FL) and for that kind of crime are what they are

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/inde...s/0893.135.html

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859633
09/10/15 06:07 PM
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He wasn't a "dealer". He didn't have the brains to be a drug dealer.

Basically heres what happened. Some undercover DEA guys sent him into a house to sell 50 vikes. When he came out with the money (his cut was probably no ore than 20 bucks) they busted him.

Like I said hes stupid, but harmless.

He signed a bunch of papers that I'm sure he had no idea of what they were. They said he had a really bad PDA.

We have had a couple of lawyers look into his case. All of them said that he signed things that cannot ever be reversed or overturned.

I guess rule number one...don't sell drugs and if you do rule number two if you ever get popped NEVER sign anything.

Please people, I was glad at first when they locked him up because it stopped him from coming around always asking for favors. But hes done 13 years now and as the years pass I get madder and madder that they gave him such heavy time.

In prison he seems like a changed guy. I think hes more than paid for what hes done.

All of you out there with kids, put yourself in my Mother in Laws place. My Father in Law dropped dead of a heart attack two months after they popped him.

Any country that can lock you up for 25 years for 50 pills......Like I said before "The illusion of freedom".

sal

Re: Bergen County [Re: salvi62] #859635
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Originally Posted By: salvi62
He wasn't a "dealer". He didn't have the brains to be a drug dealer.

Basically heres what happened. Some undercover DEA guys sent him into a house to sell 50 vikes. When he came out with the money (his cut was probably no ore than 20 bucks) they busted him.

Like I said hes stupid, but harmless.

He signed a bunch of papers that I'm sure he had no idea of what they were. They said he had a really bad PDA.

We have had a couple of lawyers look into his case. All of them said that he signed things that cannot ever be reversed or overturned.

I guess rule number one...don't sell drugs and if you do rule number two if you ever get popped NEVER sign anything.

Please people, I was glad at first when they locked him up because it stopped him from coming around always asking for favors. But hes done 13 years now and as the years pass I get madder and madder that they gave him such heavy time.

In prison he seems like a changed guy. I think hes more than paid for what hes done.

All of you out there with kids, put yourself in my Mother in Laws place. My Father in Law dropped dead of a heart attack two months after they popped him.

Any country that can lock you up for 25 years for 50 pills......Like I said before "The illusion of freedom".

sal


Although I am a big believer in the old saying "don't do the crime if you can't do the time", I also believe the punishment must fit the crime. I don't think that punishment fits a small time dealer. There are child molesters who got less time than that.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859640
09/10/15 07:44 PM
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and its such an epidemic in this country and at the end of the day if he was strung out on oxies he will still be strung out ons omething in prison so it is not doing him any good staying in there...prison industry is such a big buiness in this country people dont care about rehabbing and just lable someone a druggie and throw them away.....there are people with long rap sheets who dont get that time, but like you said bad lawyers dont help either

Re: Bergen County [Re: pmac] #859645
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Your total right Sinatra. Legit. But so many kids bought them when these docs whernt scared the dea would raid there clinic and take there license. Then over night I'm seeing grayish blues. A pill print is the way. Just like the pill companies and Dr. Flooded America with the oc80 and 40 the Dominicans didn't have thous. Even in the rap music they glorify percs. Was reading lil als book the bosses back in the days wouldn't let them dilute medicine.


fake blues are for sure in the mix these days.. several years ago before they blew up like crazy my buddy bought 600 fake ones.. got burned super bad.. got took for like 8 grand. crazy part was they looked honestly perfect.. they were the (M) brand.. the only give away was after like 30 mins they started falling to pieces.. the tops of all of them were falling off if that makes sense.. and they had absolutely 0 opiates in them.. ive seen another batch of 300 fake oc 80s, right after they got taken off the market and reformulated.. anyways the fake 80s were also dead on.. the time release coating was done perfectly and peeled off exactly like the real ones.. the color was a tiny bit off but unless you had a real one next to it you couldn't tell..only way we figured out was we got some mega junkie to roast some on foil and he knew instantly they were wack..
talk about tons of money to be made with fakes.. they sell the presses for every blue brand and for bars online.. crazy. recently the 2mg Xanax bars are by far the most faked pill on the street.. probably due to their rise in popularity since every talentless rapper talks about popping bars and sipping lean.. and it shows.. guys sound like they got 50 marbles in their mouth while theyre trying to speak.. fucking cant understand anything they say since theyre on the verge of unconsciousness.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859646
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accetturo jr is big into the blues down in florida.. and when I say big into them I mean ingesting fist fulls.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859690
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Mike cetta and Gianni Iacovo (snitch) both were heavy into pills and they're both dead now found by their kids in their bathrooms with a needle in their arm. If you don't know who they are... Operation heat. Cetta was married to the perna daughter. So Ralph the fathers grand daughter found him. Shit is for real out here. I've lost 8 friends in the last ten months. One two weeks ago. Someone else said it earlier... The pills are top dollar... U can go to paterson or newark and get 4 dollar bags of dope. The transition is fast and deadly.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859697
09/11/15 08:19 AM
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Re: Bergen County [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #859702
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Yup that's him. He was bad. His wife owns Napoli pizzeria in Lodi and he took money from the business and put it on the street for joe p. When they got knocked Joey told him to fuck off. He was trying to setup everyone and their mother at one point. I used to like Gianni. I know his kids. He was bad with pills and was kicking bad during the arraignment. He just lost control and in turn lost everything... His family, his name, and his life ultimately.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859735
09/11/15 11:54 AM
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I'd like to learn how to Peel off the coating on the OP 80's. I heard it involves some sort of burning on the pill though. Never figured it was worth the risk. I get those and the blue 30's from the pharmacy. The worst part of it all is, some people just don't understand that O refuse to sell them because I need them for my health. Lost a lot of so-called "friends" due to that.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859736
09/11/15 12:00 PM
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Cheese grater.

I've heard that works. Never got the chance to try, lol.

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Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859737
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yeah from what ive heard breaking down the op's is a fucking science experiment.. I couldn't tell you first hand cause I personally don't mess with the things.. know way too many people out of control on opiates. things are no joke.
ha funny about your "friends" getting pissed at you for not giving away or selling some of your script.. I know people who all get scripts and its a love hate relationship between them all depending on what time of the month it is.. wont speak for 3 weeks then once they know its their friends fill day they all the sudden want to hangout.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859812
09/12/15 04:22 AM
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My buddy would put the OPs in the microwave for 60 seconds and he said that would get the coating off.. I mean hey its worth the try i guess.


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Re: Bergen County [Re: pmac] #859816
09/12/15 05:37 AM
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I think the Colombians use the Dominican Republic as a staging area, a lot like the mob wanted to do with Cuba, I think they used to use Jamaica as well, y the shower posse was so powerful...

Re: Bergen County [Re: mightyhealthy] #859838
09/12/15 11:35 AM
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Man, you guys need to be careful with those pills. Too dangerous. Too addictive. Stick to booze and weed forget about those pills.

My Dad cut and smashed up a couple time release 30 mg morphine pills for my Mom as he didn't know any better and she was seriously f'd up for a day or two. (She had cancer, used the pills for pain. It hurt to swallow pills cuz of the throat soars from chemo.) Luckily, I was there to take care of her that morning before he gave her another smashed up pill.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859844
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I bit into a time released oxy about 10 years ago and was hugging the friggin toilet for 2 straight days. It was fuckin aweful.

Re: Bergen County [Re: Belmont] #859847
09/12/15 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: Belmont
I bit into a time released oxy about 10 years ago and was hugging the friggin toilet for 2 straight days. It was fuckin aweful.

that was back when the legit ones were still around.. the one you had the "time release" was nothing more than a latex like coating over the pill.. I know people who would just suck on them or run them under the sink for a few seconds and the time release would be completely removed.. that's why they were so fucking dangerous cause the time release was so easy to bypass.. that's why people loved them too. once you got the coat off you could shoot them, snort them or smoke them.. that's why they ended up reformulating them to what they are now.. now theyre stamped op instead of oc and theyre literally impossible to get through the time release.. its build into the pill now..need a pair of pliers just to break one in half.. pretty soon every pill is going to be like that so its pretty much "abuse proof". I always think about how much money the company must have lost since they reformulated the pills. crazy.

ive seen people do exactly what youre talking about.. people with little to no tolerance chew up a oc thinking it cant be that crazy its just 1 little pill and theyre face turns green after 30 mins and the only reason they can stay awake is cause theyre throwing up every 10 mins.. Can you fucking believe they used to make a 160mg oxycontin???? that would literally kill most people.. that's more than 5 30mg blues in 1 pill! so nuts.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859849
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Yea, my tolerance is pretty high, due to my pains I've been prescribed opiates since I was about 15 years old. Started with just regular ol' perc 5's. There was a point where two of those would have me feeling great. Then over time, they just wouldnt affect me anymore, so my docs kept raising doses and experimenting, and this continued for years until they put me on the combo of OP 80's and Blue 30's. Its to the point now where a perc 5 , offers me zero relief.

Re: Bergen County [Re: HandsomeMike] #859850
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yeah I feel for people who actually have legitimate pain issues and really need pain management.. these people are put through hell because of all the fucking junkies who act injured just so they can get loaded out of their minds..ruining it for people who really need it daily to have a somewhat productive life cause of the pain..
like I said I don't take any of this stuff cause ive seen the affects first hand.. it ruins lives.. but I understand that there is people out there who are in real pain and don't abuse the shit.
I know someone who got 4 scripts last week.. 120 blues each one! that's fucking 480 blues in 4 days and theyre already gone.. its been like a week...I cant stand the person they sit there all day and act like they take that many cause they have "pain" when the kid has never had anything wrong with him in his life. he fucking has a fake mri for god sake.. I saw him the other day and within a 5 hour period he already took 24 blues in that time period.. talk about someone in need of serious help.
sorry for the rant

Re: Bergen County [Re: dsbaloo] #859855
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I've had a bad back since I was 16, I've gone to the hospital in an ambulance because of it. On my 30th birthday I injured it more and couldn't properly walk for almost 12 months. Now, 5 years later I still have back pain and I know it will never be normal, but now it's as normal as it gets. I would say it took years to get how I am now. My experience about the opiates was, they actually kept the pain alive. As long as I took the strong medication, I had pain. As soon as I started cutting it down and eventually stopped it completely, my body and my back somehow readjusted and the pain went. My physiotherapist said to me, if your body can't feel the pain, how can it fix it? I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but to me it actually was so. Mine was/is nerve pain.

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