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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: pizzaboy] #859344
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Blew any chances he would have had at getting a bigger slice of the Delaware county pie

Delaware has a pie?

Are you sure you don't mean those little hot apple things on the dollar menu at McDonald's? tongue lol.


Hey! Those people have to gamble their hard earned money away too! lol

I have only been to Delaware twice for work. Delaware Park Casino and track was okay.

Bunch of swamp looking people down there...I made the mistake of going to a Delaware Wal Mart hahaha

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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: gangstereport] #859346
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They mean Delaware County, PA. That is where the DelCosa Nostra came out of that led to Bent Finger Lou eventually testifying.

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Starting to get a little tired of Scott's same rehashed statements. Then to suggest someone is requesting a hit on another without ( I'm confident) reliable sources its not cool on any level. Just my two cents but I'm sure others feel same too.

Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: padrone] #859348
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Originally Posted By: padrone
They mean Delaware County, PA. That is where the DelCosa Nostra came out of that led to Bent Finger Lou eventually testifying.


ahh I was mistaken, but cant be much better lol

Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: Itiswhatitis] #859349
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Originally Posted By: Itiswhatitis
Starting to get a little tired of Scott's same rehashed statements. Then to suggest someone is requesting a hit on another without ( I'm confident) reliable sources its not cool on any level. Just my two cents but I'm sure others feel same too.


It's not like the mob is the Kardashians and completely new subjects can be written about daily.

Those of you that come in these threads to say the same shit are getting annoying.

It isn't like you got fooled by the title and didn't know it was a scott burnstein gangster report article.

Simple solution...Don't enter the threads about his articles if you don't care for them. Is it that difficult?

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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: Blackjack2121] #859355
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These threads could also have "speculation" written in the title.

I like Scott's articles. They provide good historical summaries. But, for you guys/gals out there who learn about the Philly mob primarily through his articles and this website, that's what they are.

Any one of you, who reads the old philly articles or who has read the books that have come out on Philly can write the same kinds of articles.

I haven't posted anything on this website in a while because I haven't heard anything of substance. No one knows what these guys are up to right now.

Ask your bookie if he's posting a link to his costa rica website on his twitter or Facebook account? Sounds stupid right? Why would anyone close these guys tell a reporter about who wants to kill who? If Angelina turns up dead tomorrow, you don't think Scott's gonna have a small problem with his source?


Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: Itiswhatitis
Starting to get a little tired of Scott's same rehashed statements. Then to suggest someone is requesting a hit on another without ( I'm confident) reliable sources its not cool on any level. Just my two cents but I'm sure others feel same too.


It's not like the mob is the Kardashians and completely new subjects can be written about daily.

Those of you that come in these threads to say the same shit are getting annoying.

It isn't like you got fooled by the title and didn't know it was a scott burnstein gangster report article.

Simple solution...Don't enter the threads about his articles if you don't care for them. Is it that difficult?


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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: NickyWhip] #859358
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Originally Posted By: NickyWhip
These threads could also have "speculation" written in the title.

I like Scott's articles. They provide good historical summaries. But, for you guys/gals out there who learn about the Philly mob primarily through his articles and this website, that's what they are.

Any one of you, who reads the old philly articles or who has read the books that have come out on Philly can write the same kinds of articles.

I haven't posted anything on this website in a while because I haven't heard anything of substance. No one knows what these guys are up to right now.

Ask your bookie if he's posting a link to his costa rica website on his twitter or Facebook account? Sounds stupid right? Why would anyone close these guys tell a reporter about who wants to kill who? If Angelina turns up dead tomorrow, you don't think Scott's gonna have a small problem with his source?


Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: Itiswhatitis
Starting to get a little tired of Scott's same rehashed statements. Then to suggest someone is requesting a hit on another without ( I'm confident) reliable sources its not cool on any level. Just my two cents but I'm sure others feel same too.


It's not like the mob is the Kardashians and completely new subjects can be written about daily.

Those of you that come in these threads to say the same shit are getting annoying.

It isn't like you got fooled by the title and didn't know it was a scott burnstein gangster report article.

Simple solution...Don't enter the threads about his articles if you don't care for them. Is it that difficult?


I agree that the hit thing does seem a bit far fetched as far as him hearing it directly from a source...

But one could certainly speculate that hot head Borghesi who bragged about 11 murders would want Angelina dead

Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: gangstereport] #859359
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Your all changing his words he said there was a rumour that source told him that George was looking to kill Marty

Did not say it was fact or that he believed it was just a rumour


I don't understand you Scott haters its like you want him to write something you disagree with you do know most of his sources are law enforcement


Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

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There's a simple solution for those of you who are "tired of Scott's rehashed articles". Its called don't fucking read them, or comment in the threads, unless of course you have some compelling new information for us, in regards to the topics of his articles. Simple, right?

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Irresponsible journalism at the very best.


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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: SinatraClub] #859385
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Relax buddy. I've offered my opinion, several speculative threads ago, on the whole Philly Scene. Some of it's what I've read, some of its what I heard. I got no "compelling" news that I want to share with you.

These threads are purely speculative and they are stale, that's all. No offense to you. Nothing current is being discussed.


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There's a simple solution for those of you who are "tired of Scott's rehashed articles". Its called don't fucking read them, or comment in the threads, unless of course you have some compelling new information for us, in regards to the topics of his articles. Simple, right?


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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: NickyWhip] #859392
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Originally Posted By: NickyWhip
Relax buddy. I've offered my opinion, several speculative threads ago, on the whole Philly Scene. Some of it's what I've read, some of its what I heard. I got no "compelling" news that I want to share with you.

These threads are purely speculative and they are stale, that's all. No offense to you. Nothing current is being discussed.


Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
There's a simple solution for those of you who are "tired of Scott's rehashed articles". Its called don't fucking read them, or comment in the threads, unless of course you have some compelling new information for us, in regards to the topics of his articles. Simple, right?



I wasn't referring to you. Your comment wasn't anything negative. This is all speculation. However, I was referring to those posters who simply made posts like "I'm sick of Scott and his rehashed articles" and "irresponsible journalism" with nothing else to offer except to bash him.

I've been on these forums for a while, and Scott's always been a constant. He's a pretty good guy and prior to creating website, literally everyone and their mother appreciated his articles and whatever they had to offer, whether it was old news with new speculative tidbits or not. Seems like once his website got up and going, he was just "fishing for views".

The guy co-authored a book with Phil Leonetti, yet according to some posters, it's impossible for him to have Philadelphia sources who perhaps possibly did relay all of this information to him. And now he knows nothing about Philly, because he's from Detroit..Please.

Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: SinatraClub] #859399
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
There's a simple solution for those of you who are "tired of Scott's rehashed articles". Its called don't fucking read them, or comment in the threads


So if I choose to selectively question aspects of respective articles I should not read them and lose the right to have an opinion?


These are boards for opinion. Almost nothing is set in stone. Get over yourself.


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Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: cheech] #859409
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Originally Posted By: cheech
Irresponsible journalism at the very best.


A more concise way of saying what I was trying to say.

I don't give a fuck about the guy rehashing history. That's what most of Anastasia's articles are. "Merlino, who was convicted bla bla bla. Did 14 years bla bla bla. Is living in florida bla bla bla". "Mazzon, who was convicted with Merlino bla bla bla, did 9 years bla bla". Honestly, it doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is this guy talking about people conspiring to murder other people based on the words of some fringe low level bookie. It is really irresponsible.

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I think it is highly irresponsible to claim a confidential source mentioned a planned killing. Its bullshit and it shows these mob journalists ran out of things to write about.

Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: gangstereport] #859412
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I honestly think furo_from_naples charts contain more interesting information than this speculative drivel. It's really kind of a slightly-more-high-brow version of "How much do associates get paid" or "how do i become a made guy" or "was gotti a good boss". Except rather than slightly high junior college kids talking nonsense, we got a grown ass man slandering the shit out of guys with no evidence.

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Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: gangster report:tensions rising in Philly [Re: LittleNicky] #859413
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
I honestly think furo_from_naples charts contain more interesting information than this speculative drivel. It's really kind of a slightly-more-high-brow version of "How much do associates get paid" or "how do i become a made guy" or "was gotti a good boss". Except rather than slightly high junior college kids talking nonsense, we got a grown ass man slandering the shit out of guys with no evidence.


LOL well said sir


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
There's a simple solution for those of you who are "tired of Scott's rehashed articles". Its called don't fucking read them, or comment in the threads


So if I choose to selectively question aspects of respective articles I should not read them and lose the right to have an opinion?


These are boards for opinion. Almost nothing is set in stone. Get over yourself.


"tired of Scott's rehashed articles" isn't selective questioning. Lol, it's a flat out statement.

And what in this article is exactly slander? Like I said, the guy clearly was able to gather some sources a lot of us couldn't and still can't with his book with Leonetti. Have all those sources dried up over the past couple of years since that books release? First it was he's rehashing old material, now he's slandering. How is it slander if it's the same shit others before him have wrote about? I don't think anyone ever believed or stated such the Borgesi wanting to kill Angelina aspect of the article. But this too, is rehashed information. First mentioned by Lou Monacello. How is this slander?

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Why is it so hard to believe Scott has sources in law enforcement ?? In my opinion the guy is a very talented writer on the American mob and has co wrote one of the best books written on the American mob , I know a lot of people who enjoy and appreciate his articles and website , some posters on here just like to pick holes in everyone's stories and posts , that's more tiring than one of Scott's articles , get a grip

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Just wanted to comment on the Sonny Mazzone part is Scott' article. The woman he beat up is still his wife and the house she lives in with their son is in both of their names. I was told that she wanted to change the locks on said house but in order to do so, since still married and are co owners of the house she had to get an order of protection and in order to do that she had to press charges. Now I have no clue if she since dropped the charges or whatever else has happened. However, I do know that was her original decision. But then again, I,dont know what she told police and so on because he was released on ROR within a few hours. He was chArged with simple assault. I guess that's the reason for ROR and hence would be released on a normal time schedule as he was. I was just shocked he received such a light charge when he was drunk, in public, AT THE SHORE and it was his Wife. I hope maybe he got some corresponding charges like anyone of us would. He was WASTED and his from the cops.

About scott, I'm happy there is someone consistently writing about Philly and does have George A. as a good resource. But with him not being from or living in Philly is a big disadvantage in my eyes. So sometimes I may question something he says more than maybe another reader. I did like his phil book for what phil gave him haha. I'm glAd he tries to give us updaTes and does provide the historical insight when writing his articles.

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philly has a rag-tag mob family with too many members for their lack of territory

somebody has to retire, be paid off, or get shot......it's how crime works

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
philly has a rag-tag mob family with too many members for their lack of territory


There 1.5 mil in Philly Cook. And half as many again in Southern Jersey.
That not big enough for 40 wise guys?

What's your acceptable Wiseguy to civilian population cook? 1:10mill?


But good argument.


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
philly has a rag-tag mob family with too many members for their lack of territory


There 1.5 mil in Philly Cook. And half as many again in Southern Jersey.
That not big enough for 40 wise guys?

What's your acceptable Wiseguy to civilian population cook? 1:10mill?


But good argument.



if they have that much territory then why do they act like dinner thieves

maybe they just lack the class or act like bums to throw off the feds

they may have too many shooters and not enough thinkers

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I guess that I'm one of those guys who has 'picked holes' in the past. I have nothing against Scott B. I like to read his articles. I have no doubt that he has sources in law enforcement and elsewhere and has provided valuable information to interested people like those of us on this website.

That being said, I have the right on an internet chatroom or board or whatever this is called to express some concern or doubt over a couple of the things he has written. It bothered me that he wrote about the 'hulking' presence of a 5'7 Boston mobster whose mistress referred to him as Napoleon. It made me feel like he didn't do his homework this one time. And if it happened once, then has it happened again? It opens a can of worms. All journalists have to deal with that. It's part of their job.

That's my piece. I am not focused on picking holes in his stories and never will.

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Why is it so hard to believe Scott has sources in law enforcement ?? In my opinion the guy is a very talented writer on the American mob and has co wrote one of the best books written on the American mob , I know a lot of people who enjoy and appreciate his articles and website , some posters on here just like to pick holes in everyone's stories and posts , that's more tiring than one of Scott's articles , get a grip



+1 completely agree


Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

Sorry for the confusion
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
philly has a rag-tag mob family with too many members for their lack of territory


There 1.5 mil in Philly Cook. And half as many again in Southern Jersey.
That not big enough for 40 wise guys?

What's your acceptable Wiseguy to civilian population cook? 1:10mill?


But good argument.



Eh, I think he means Italians left in SP. I don't think he's necessarily wrong that thre might not be enough action to keep everyone happy. Do you disagree, Sonny?

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Here's an interesting theory... Assuming the Scott's source is in Law Enforcement most likely, what if LE is leaking semi-true or exaggerated half-truths in order to get people talking on wires or even stir the pot potentially with Angelina and Borgesi who might not necessarily have hits out on each other, but would certainly cause a commotion if they a heard a rumor such as Georgie "wanting to hit Marty"?

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My point is, I don't think LE just leaks stuff monthly for the hell of it... They have motives as well so just keep that in mind.

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
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And Lol @ Georgie Boys mom coming to his defense in mob sitdowns.

Coming this Fall: "Mama's Boys, Philadelphia."

That stupid show in the Bronx is how they wired up that fat stoolie and put Sally Larca away for close to ten. On a fucking pot rap!

How did the show lead him to being wired?


http://nypost.com/2013/05/03/from-reality-to-real-life-rat/

Sally wasn't wired - Anthony Zoccolillo was wired and then turned witness, as I understand it. I guess he's an associate? Anyway, he was one of the subjects of "Mama's Boys". I don't think the show itself was actually much of a factor, insofar as the arrests were concerned/ It could have been purely coincidental; If i had to guess, I'd assume he was being watched long before the show came into the picture. It just so happens that after he was on television, he ended up turning witness to avoid a lengthy prison sentence.

On the other hand, The article also mentions another case where one of the subjects ended up wearing a wire and incriminating a bonnano capo all while the show (Mob Wives) was filming...Maybe LE are using these shows to help in their investigations, or both cases are coincidences, who knows.

My personal feeling(for no real reason)is that both were coincidences. It seems like an overly complicated way to catch criminals, honestly.

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