This information is from a Stone who knows of the Chi mobs influence in Jacktown Mississippi :

Jackson was the first city in the Sip to get really ganged up. Vicksburg, The Delta, and Natchez came soon after. With that said, I'M going to elaborate on Jackson because I was here before, When, and after it started. We always had gang bangers from the Chi networking down here since the 70s , But they weren't recruiting instead they were just laying low or selling dope. We always had a crime scene. We had pimps, pushers, robbers, and bookies. Back when I was a little kid, we had alot of illegal casinos on the pearl river between the Jackson and Rankin County. I grew up in the downtown between the Farish street area and Doodleville and I also lived a bit on the northside in Virden Addition. I was all over the city though. We had neighborhood beefs and school beefs but nothing too serious. The first nation to really make moves in the city was the ABPSN. They came in around 79 or 80. They was on the El Rukn demo then so, they weren't letting young boys in their mob but they did have young boys as associates. They were mostly grown men, some of them which had done time in Parchman. Around the mid 80s, they went ahead and start recruiting young boys into the nation. The VLs and GDs came around the same time between 1981-82. The VLs expanded more quicker before the GDs though. At the beginning of mobbing ' in Jack Town, People Nation was the majority in the city especially the Stones & Lords. There was a few Mickey Cobras and Titanic Stones in the mix as well. The main VL branches were 4CH, CVL, IIVL, MIVL, and the most popular IVL. The Insanes were always the largest branch in town. The Gds got big because alot of the independent neighborhood cliques were at it with finballers.. cliques like the Georgetown Mafia and The Q Boys went under the BGD banner.The GDs were the main Folks but BDs was large too , then there were was also a few New Breeds A.K.A. Black Gangsters. Crips was in the coty as well. They came about 89-90 and I only remember hearing about Grape Streets and Rollin' 60s. They gang banged a little but they were really focus on the drug trade. They didn't ride under the 6 but they did ally with the Folks. However they wasn't really a factor and many of them ended up flipping to Gd or became completely inactive. Bloods was never in the city. I remember a few but they weren't active at all. The main groups at first were Black P Stones, Vice Lords, and Gangster Disciples. Stones fell off because they were too strict for the youth so most of their young guys ended up VLs. One last thing, Most of the gang activity was concentrates on the Westside and Dowtown parts of Jackson. The Northside parts that were next to Westside were a hotbed too. The Southside didn't really get active till the mid 90s."

I live in Madison, a suburb about 10 minutes outside Jackson. I am younger than Stone but he is correct in what he is saying. Going back to the days of slavery blacks wanted out of the South. To get out you had to go North. Some got to St Louis and stayed. However many kept going North to Chicago. Once they got there they stayed and started families. However they still had relatives in the South. That is how the link between Jackson and Chicago started. Then as time goes on you have people in Jackson who wanted out for better opportunities or just they were tired of a small boring city. They have family in Chicago so they go there. Same for Chicago. They want out of the big city. They have family in Mississippi so that's where they go. It's only natural crime and gangs followed suit. Larry Hoover, a founder of the GD's, is from Jackson. Im sure that played a big part in the spread of gangs as well. Simon City Royals are the gang you here most about at the moment. Several big arrests lately involving them.

Hey GoldenEagle, long time since I saw you post and hope everything well with you. Yes your right in many ways and I also have been to Madison last year. I'm currently in the city of the Golden Eagles, small world isn't it.

BF,

interesting post.What do you think are some of the factors that changed the Chi-town gangs approach to MS from distribution to full fledged recruiting and chapters forming? You said it started around 79-80 so it can't be the introduction of crack cocaine to America.(which is what I assumed it was)

Golden,

Yes, BF,F1, and I had a long discussion about migration patterns of Southern Blacks from the early parts of the 20th century. MS to Chicago. AL to Detroit and DC. The Carolinas to NYC and Newark. Reverse migration has been taking place so the big city folks bring back good and bad things to the places their grands are from.
Other routes were TX to Los Angeles, and LA to Oakland.

Everything is great. Here every day but don't post a whole lot. What takes you to Hattiesburg.

Gets,

That's a good question which I can only answer half of it. This information is from a guy who witness it firsthand and became a member of the Stones. He did explain that for the recruitment by VLs & GDs was generally Chicago youth expressing their membership and attracting other youngsters around the city. Therefore it's a combination of socializing then criminal activity later. The Stones on the other hand was in the El Rukn phase so it's probably expanding their membership and business base. Today by his statements, Stones in the Sip are low profile active, pro black power/Muslim , or misguided thinking they're hybrid bloods or branch of the VLs (LoL). General age of Stones between 30-50 with a modest amount in their 20s or younger.

It goes back to what I said Gets, Chicago Stones are generally the most low profile mob outside the Mid-west. You wouldn't know of their presence until arrest/indictments or violence. Also, There's a chapter of Mickey Cobras in Yazoo City , Black Disciples have a presence in Meridian. Don't know about them New Breeds.

Thanks BF,


In the recent thread about LKs..topic shifted to Chi gangs opening up membership to ALL ethnicities at about roughly the same time that this thread says that Chi gangs started recruiting and opening up sets in MS.

I thought perhaps there was an incident or event that happened in Chicago that "opened up" what had previously been localized gangs to people from other areas and backgrounds.

Your welcome Gets,

There were neighborhood cliques are in the city from Georgetown Mafia ( They have a rap group YouTube, Monte Ellis is from there too) , Q Boys ( Queens district) , Virden Addition Players, Shady Oaks Boys, Hill Boys ( Presidential Hills), and a host of others would eventually become VLs & GDs. Now the affiliations have lax and it's back to Cliques and some are mix of affiliations too.

Despite the open door policy , here in the Sip they generally aren't open to non blacks. More so within the prison politics than streets.