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Re: Who's the Decavalcante boss after the riggi death
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10/31/15 10:04 AM
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true gotti and riggi were close. Gotti put john D`amatro in charge aswell
i think there is a difference this time though because charles stagno and the undercover FBI agents conversation on tape are complaining
Hate ain't even a good word. You got [s/1] c**k. One day he called they had to almost break it up. And my Goombah, I made my bones with my Goombah many moons. Okay? [laughs] Milk, Milk his whole f**kin', Milk's family was the root of the tree. UC: Really? CS: Oh he started this whole thing. [s/l lt's been around a while now]. See his uncle the underboss of consiglieres since the beginning of time. They come right from Sicily to here. UC: Yeah. CS: This is sii ... okay this proves he's the oldest crew in the country. They start, they originated the five families. Okay? UC: Right. CS: And now we run under the f**kin' Gambinos.
UC: Like alright listen, we got this issue you have this issue let's come to a ... CS: But you can't (background noise) but you can't make a [ov]. Listen to me these guys here are from 1910. Milk and them. UC: Wow. CS: There's no if you're making a hundred thousand in their league okay and this [s/1] gesture. No. If you are making a hundred thousand a week and you're wrong and this guy ain't got three cents I know cause I'm makin', no. UC: Alright yeah. CS: Right is right and what's wrong is f**kin' wrong. And that's what they do. That's how we live. UC: Yeah. CS: Now me. I planted the f**kin' flag in f**kin' New Orleans, in Las Vegas, f**kin' L.A. okay?
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Re: Who's the Decavalcante boss after the riggi death
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Such a terrible plan - bikers and grenadss. The decavs are a joke. defo a joke i mean this is the 21st centuary not the 70s. You had a man in his 70s on the phone talking about mob hits drug dealing running a brothel and speaking to an undercover FBI agent that family is defo a jokeOn the following day, the UC again met with STANGO in person. During that meeting, which was recorded, STANGO again insisted that V -1 be kjlJed or maimed by the UC or by someone on his behalf. During the course ofthe conversation, STANGO told the UC that one might consider throwing "a couple of pineapples" [plastic explosives] into V-1 's place ofbusiness, or that "you stick up the joint [mearung V-1 's business] you put twelve [i.e. bullets] in his nuts. Okay I'd take his legs out." Later STANGO stated "we got a problem in our house [the DCF] and we gotta straighten it out." When the UC questioned Stango as to what would happen if V -1 "gets gone" [killed], STANGO responded, " listen I don't give a f**k. If he gone gone I'll see ya later. They might give you fifty medals. They might give us fifty medals ... whatever happens it came from me." STANGO added, "[B]ut this guy has to get maimed. He ain't gotta get killed." STANGO then continued, " I wanna blow him up" and that "this gotta be ended. This gotta be ended alright? And I don't want you there. No way around it." On February l, 2015, the UC met with Stango in Las Vegas, Nevada. During the course of the meeting, which was recorded, the UC and Stango discussed, among other things, the plan to kill V-1. In the course ofthe conversation, the UC confirmed that Stango wanted V-1 dead, and not merely injured. The UC and Stango then began to discuss the plan to kill V-1. The UC explained that, in keeping with Stango's suggestion during the course of the earlier conversation set forth in paragraph 15, two members of an outlaw motorcycle gang would be hired to shoot and kill V -1. Stango agreed and suggested that they pay each of the two men $25,000 to allow them to stay in the Elizabeth, NJ area for a period of time to be able to scout the area where the killing would occur, and to track V -1 in order to identify the best place to do so and effect their escape. Stango then provided the UC with two copies of a photograph of V -1 so that the assassins could mark their target. Importantly, the UC asked Stango what would happen in the event that other DCF members discovered that Stango and the UC were responsible for the killing. Stango assured the UC that other high-ranking members also wanted to kill V -1 and that, while the order to kill had come from Stango, others in the DCF would support the decision.
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Re: Who's the Decavalcante boss after the riggi death
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According to many sources Gotti didn't appoint John D'Amato boss. They weren't always under the Gambinos either and for part of the Gotti era they were considered rivals. Gotti had hopes of controlling the DeCalvalcante Family and making them the Gambino's B-Team. In order to do this he reached out to certain members, John D'Amato was one of these guys, he conspired with Gotti & Gravano to kill Gaetano Vastola, who was appointed acting boss after Riggi was convicted 1990. Gotti himself was indicted and convicted, so the plan never went through. Vastola was sentenced to an 8 year prison term for extortion. And John Riggi himself appointed D'Amato as acting boss from in prison. D'Amato's reign didn't last, as I think around the same time Gravano had just finished testifying and spoke about he and Gotti's scheme. And supposedly being recruited by the Gambinos is one of the reasons D'Amato was killed, along with the rumor of him being bisexual. i heard that gotti backed John D`amato. He used the decavs for a murder cant remember who they whacked i think vincent palmero was one of the shooters in 1989. I heard he was disliked aswell as many saw him as a proxy for the gambino family dident Gotti dislike Vastola because after spending time with him in prison he thought Vastola was weak it was the girlfriend who said about the bisexual thing. She told Anthony Rotondo who demanded that he be killed and the administration agreeded it was embarrassed
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Re: Who's the Decavalcante boss after the riggi death
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10/31/15 04:28 PM
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It was Ernie Weiss. I don't know why Gotti didn't like Vastola, he was assigned by Riggi, so I think it was just Vastola standing in the way of his plans. That family was seriously fractured. You had guys who thought they should've remained loyal to the Genovese, guys who thought the Gambinos would bring that family up the ladder some, and others who wanted to remain independant. They didn't want to become like Philly. i am not sure of the complete reason john did not like Vastola but from what i read he seemed to think Vastola would turn rat after doing time with him he said "he was weak" but then again he could have just being saying that as an excuse riggi should have stepped down when he went away that panel caused problems but by the mid 90s vincent palmero was basically the boss charles majuri tried to step in but he did not have enough respect and by late 90s were doing well they were and are always trying to be treated the same as a five familys. It needed an offical boss not vince that fucking rat. One of the old timers should have stepped up.Giacomo Amari could have done a good job they used to have guys in New York Louie consalvo he still very close to new york and is a capo his brother in law is phil abramo. In the mid 90s he was running rackets in New York Nicky Corezzo found out he was not happy it all got settled on a sitdown but the decavs after that were not allowed to recruit outside of New Jeresy. on tape in the early 2000s they were complaing the five familys never respect and even this latest indicment stagno complaining that they have to report to the Gambino family
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Re: Who's the Decavalcante boss after the riggi death
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11/01/15 06:58 PM
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Ivy in your opinion because the decavalcante are under the gambinos,the family boss can be Frank Guarraci 'cause is sicilian like cefalù ? The DeCavalcantes have had their own Sicilian ties irregardless of their affiliation with the Gambinos. The name escapes me right now but they had one in their administration at one point. That said, we need to remember that the "Sicilianess" of these guys is often overstated. Whether we're talking about John Stanfa, Dom Cefalu, Sal Montagna, Frank Guaracci, etc., these guys have lived in the US for decades. I don't think they fit the profile some have in mind of guys fresh off the plane from Sicily, bringing with them the codes of the old world and set to show the Americans how it's done. Furthermore, while we've seen several examples of them reaching leadership positions, it's not indicative of predictions we saw in the past of a widespread zip takeover of the American crime families.
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Re: Who's the Decavalcante boss after the riggi death
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Ivy in your opinion because the decavalcante are under the gambinos,the family boss can be Frank Guarraci 'cause is sicilian like cefalù ? The DeCavalcantes have had their own Sicilian ties irregardless of their affiliation with the Gambinos. The name escapes me right now but they had one in their administration at one point. That said, we need to remember that the "Sicilianess" of these guys is often overstated. Whether we're talking about John Stanfa, Dom Cefalu, Sal Montagna, Frank Guaracci, etc., these guys have lived in the US for decades. I don't think they fit the profile some have in mind of guys fresh off the plane from Sicily, bringing with them the codes of the old world and set to show the Americans how it's done. Furthermore, while we've seen several examples of them reaching leadership positions, it's not indicative of predictions we saw in the past of a widespread zip takeover of the American crime families. Both Cefalù and Guerraci are born in sicily,so I imaginated Guerraci that spoke with Cefalu: "Hey Dom the old man is dead; I want to take over the family,what you think compare ?" "Franky if you want to be the boss,you'll be the boss,good luck you'll need more fortune to run up this family"
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