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Re: How did gotti hold on to power after incarceration
[Re: Krsheely]
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11/02/15 09:26 PM
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Despite what many say, john gotti was not stupid. We keep hearing stories about guys wanting him dead but truth be told, he was feared and had a lot of loyal guys around him. Even when he went away, he was still feared and respected.
Gotti was dumb for talking in an apartment, Tony ducks was dumb for talking in a car. Chin gigante was dumb for walking the streets in a bath robe. Vinny B was dumb for talking to Joe Massino. The list goes on and on.
Bottom line, all mobsters go down. Bosses just go down the hardest.
You cant beat the G with their cia technology and endless supply of funds. Add in the fact that there are no more pay phones and camera's on every fuckin corner and the odds just arent good.
One more thing but off subject. All those prison pics of mobsters smiling with their arms around each other: trust me, they aint happy and each and every one of those guys would give his right arem, left arm, and a leg to be home with his wife and kids.
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Re: How did gotti hold on to power after incarceration
[Re: Belmont]
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11/03/15 03:47 AM
11/03/15 03:47 AM
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Despite what many say, john gotti was not stupid. We keep hearing stories about guys wanting him dead but truth be told, he was feared and had a lot of loyal guys around him. Even when he went away, he was still feared and respected.
Gotti was dumb for talking in an apartment, Tony ducks was dumb for talking in a car. Chin gigante was dumb for walking the streets in a bath robe. Vinny B was dumb for talking to Joe Massino. The list goes on and on.
Bottom line, all mobsters go down. Bosses just go down the hardest.
You cant beat the G with their cia technology and endless supply of funds. Add in the fact that there are no more pay phones and camera's on every fuckin corner and the odds just arent good.
One more thing but off subject. All those prison pics of mobsters smiling with their arms around each other: trust me, they aint happy and each and every one of those guys would give his right arem, left arm, and a leg to be home with his wife and kids. Not sure you can add Chin to that mix. His crazy act, which included walking the street in his bathrobe, was a huge part of what kept him on the street and out of prison until 1997. An active NY boss on the street for 16 years (1981-1997) in the 1980s and 1990s, when the feds were going hard against the Mafia, is extraordinary.
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Re: How did gotti hold on to power after incarceration
[Re: Belmont]
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11/03/15 07:36 AM
11/03/15 07:36 AM
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Despite what many say, john gotti was not stupid. We keep hearing stories about guys wanting him dead but truth be told, he was feared and had a lot of loyal guys around him. Even when he went away, he was still feared and respected.
Gotti was dumb for talking in an apartment, Tony ducks was dumb for talking in a car. Chin gigante was dumb for walking the streets in a bath robe. Vinny B was dumb for talking to Joe Massino. The list goes on and on.
Bottom line, all mobsters go down. Bosses just go down the hardest.
You cant beat the G with their cia technology and endless supply of funds. Add in the fact that there are no more pay phones and camera's on every fuckin corner and the odds just arent good.
One more thing but off subject. All those prison pics of mobsters smiling with their arms around each other: trust me, they aint happy and each and every one of those guys would give his right arem, left arm, and a leg to be home with his wife and kids. But how long did Gotti last on the street? 5 years. Gigante was free for 15 years and almost died a free man. Gigante fell like every other boss, but none of his guys ratted on him. It was rats from other families that brought him down: Gravano, Leotteti and Casso. Even Massino was on the street for over 9 years. Even Merlino has 9 none consecutive years as a free man.
"I die outside; I die in jail. It don't matter to me," -John Franzese
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Re: How did gotti hold on to power after incarceration
[Re: Ted]
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11/03/15 08:52 AM
11/03/15 08:52 AM
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Gigante fell like every other boss, but none of his guys ratted on him. It was rats from other families that brought him down: Gravano, Leotteti and Casso. Even Massino was on the street for over 9 years. Even Merlino has 9 none consecutive years as a free man. Agreed, but Peter Savino did rat on Chin.
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Re: How did gotti hold on to power after incarceration
[Re: Belmont]
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11/03/15 09:34 AM
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Despite what many say, john gotti was not stupid. We keep hearing stories about guys wanting him dead but truth be told, he was feared and had a lot of loyal guys around him. Even when he went away, he was still feared and respected.
Gotti was dumb for talking in an apartment, Tony ducks was dumb for talking in a car. Chin gigante was dumb for walking the streets in a bath robe. Vinny B was dumb for talking to Joe Massino. The list goes on and on.
Bottom line, all mobsters go down. Bosses just go down the hardest.
You cant beat the G with their cia technology and endless supply of funds. Add in the fact that there are no more pay phones and camera's on every fuckin corner and the odds just arent good.
One more thing but off subject. All those prison pics of mobsters smiling with their arms around each other: trust me, they aint happy and each and every one of those guys would give his right arem, left arm, and a leg to be home with his wife and kids.
He was stupid. I mean I can name a million dumb things he did in his career that prove he was. Lets be honest NOBODY wanted the job after Gotti got arrested. The amount of heat he brought on the Gambinos and other families was enormous.
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Re: How did gotti hold on to power after incarceration
[Re: Belmont]
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11/03/15 02:49 PM
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Chin may have been on the street longer but what kind of existance is that, walking around in a bath robe and acting like he is insane for 20 years. He didnt enjoy life, he was basicallly a prisone while on the streets. Thats what i dont understand, this guy lived a shitty fuckin life. Guys live better in jail. He lived in a luxury townhouse on the upper east side - one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the country. Guarantee that house is worth between $10 & $20 million today. During the day he either played cards with his friends in a clubhouse or gave orders over the most succesful mafia family in the country. I don't think his life was that bad. I do see your point though and Raab said the same thing in 5 Families.
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