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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: SinatraClub]
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09/10/15 11:56 AM
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Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life. Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life. The fact is , he was a Boss. Living in an apartment, where he lived was chosen, a way of life that many never traded in for many reasons. Even The Chin and many other people who have and had plenty of resources to live anywhere "chose" to live where they have family, protection, stability and a feeling of security that is priceless. Judging someone for that reason is rediculous. I did live in the same type of neighborhood and understand this completely. On another note, I wonder who , without the right skills, could have survived working for those two mutt losers. You? Al D'Arco was a glorified capo. He didn't make any decisions of his own while being "boss", every decision and call he made was what Casso & Amuso told him to do. I'm not judging D'Arco because he lived in apartments, that was just an example along with everything else I mentioned as to why I think parts of his story were embellished. Calling him a "boss" with a straight face is laughable, to me at least. He was placed there in an acting role, all the decisions came from Casso & Amuso, he was quickly demoted from that acting boss spot not too long after, then ran to the feds under fear of being placed on the hit list. Fat Pete flat out disobeyed Amuso & Casso when it came down to it. D'Arco survived by being merely a lap dog for the two men. He never generated any real money outside of his Burger stand, or so he claims. So it's hard to say if his low income tenement living was a choice or not. I do know that he basically got into his last one for free through the Windows scam. But again, like I said, I'm not judging him for that. Fact is, Al D'Arco is much more Nick Caramandi than an Angelo Bruno. And like I said again, the book is great as I'm regards to the story of a lower rung made man, one who basically had to scheme all his literal life out of necessity as opposed to want. @ Bonanno, you can download the Last Testament of Luciano online for free, through Google if you search hard enough. Over the years the book has become less and less desirable as it seems the author really had no with Luciano like what the book implies and how those words may not even be Lucianos. But I'm of the opinion they are, and that he just jerked the author about certain things. Just throwing that out there. At the end of the day it is a very good book on that era and he served as acting boss even if a puppet for nearly a year and a capo for several years. His time as a soldier is interesting as well Still one of th best books in recent time a very good insight into the lucheses esp casso and amuso
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: BennyB]
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09/10/15 02:02 PM
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Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life. Mob Boss is seriously embellished IMO. D'Arco was nothing more than a puppet, yes man for Casso & Amuso. Of course in the book, he claims otherwise. And I'm not sure what to make of his claims of all his dealings with real Genovese heavyweights during the 70's. The guy lived in apartment tenements all his life, was never really a good earner, and wasn't made until he was in his 50's. And at least one of his claims is flat out wrong, and that's the origins of the American Mafia, and it being New Jersey with some secret society called "The Church". Good book though if you're looking for a book about a lower rung guy, instead of a boss, which is what D'Arco was for most of his life. The fact is , he was a Boss. Living in an apartment, where he lived was chosen, a way of life that many never traded in for many reasons. Even The Chin and many other people who have and had plenty of resources to live anywhere "chose" to live where they have family, protection, stability and a feeling of security that is priceless. Judging someone for that reason is rediculous. I did live in the same type of neighborhood and understand this completely. On another note, I wonder who , without the right skills, could have survived working for those two mutt losers. You? Al D'Arco was a glorified capo. He didn't make any decisions of his own while being "boss", every decision and call he made was what Casso & Amuso told him to do. I'm not judging D'Arco because he lived in apartments, that was just an example along with everything else I mentioned as to why I think parts of his story were embellished. Calling him a "boss" with a straight face is laughable, to me at least. He was placed there in an acting role, all the decisions came from Casso & Amuso, he was quickly demoted from that acting boss spot not too long after, then ran to the feds under fear of being placed on the hit list. Fat Pete flat out disobeyed Amuso & Casso when it came down to it. D'Arco survived by being merely a lap dog for the two men. He never generated any real money outside of his Burger stand, or so he claims. So it's hard to say if his low income tenement living was a choice or not. I do know that he basically got into his last one for free through the Windows scam. But again, like I said, I'm not judging him for that. Fact is, Al D'Arco is much more Nick Caramandi than an Angelo Bruno. And like I said again, the book is great as I'm regards to the story of a lower rung made man, one who basically had to scheme all his literal life out of necessity as opposed to want. @ Bonanno, you can download the Last Testament of Luciano online for free, through Google if you search hard enough. Over the years the book has become less and less desirable as it seems the author really had no with Luciano like what the book implies and how those words may not even be Lucianos. But I'm of the opinion they are, and that he just jerked the author about certain things. Just throwing that out there. Agree 100%. they chose him because they wanted someone who they could order around and wouldn't threaten their power. Was he really a good replacement for Paul Vario?? There was better options but he was picked because of his friendship with vic. Al was there puppet but do you blame him?that was me I would be amuso and cassos puppet I mean he was trying you survive and he knew the friendship would bring a higher ranks meaning more money he advanced in the mob because of the friendship he got unlucky in the end but it shows its not always the most able who get the higher spots its there connections like a lot of things in life
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Sorry for the confusion
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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09/21/15 09:24 AM
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Just finished reading "Kill The Irishman" by Rick Porello.
The reviews said the book was written horribly, more like a crime blotter and less like a storyline. But it didn't read that way to me. The recounting of events in the bombing war that went back and forth between Danny Greene and his enemies was fast paced, exciting, and to the point.
That said, I don't agree that Danny Greene was the tipping point that brought down the nationwide conspiracy known as the mafia. The book portrays Greene as the final straw, the last victim that would wreak havoc on the stability of the mob and lead to it's near total collapse. I don't agree with that at all. Seems more like a ploy to pump Greene up to be something he wasn't....all in an effort to pump the book about Greene into something it isn't.
The retelling of his sordid affairs before he become embroiled in a war against the weak Cleveland mafia was also disappointing. He was no Robbin Hood, taking from the rich and giving to the poor while defying the mafia. He was stealing from the poor, during his career in his labor union. That revelation sort of deflated any image the reader was hoping for before they opened the book.
Is this book a recommended read? Yes, but not so good that you need to spend money on it.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Alfa Romeo]
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09/22/15 05:00 PM
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ever look at "mafia marriage" by rosalie (profaci) bonanno ? interesting,but,like her husband & father in law,another LIAR,,"in our world",,blah,blah,blah....
I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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09/23/15 01:12 AM
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ever look at "mafia marriage" by rosalie (profaci) bonanno ? interesting,but,like her husband & father in law,another LIAR,,"in our world",,blah,blah,blah.... That told me a bunch right there. What could she possibly have to contribute?
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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10/12/15 11:04 PM
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I totally forgot the actual book that got me here 20 yrs. later..THE PLUMBER by Joe Salerno..blew me away..& u can't find some of the pics in that book anywhere..I know it was written by fact.I always believed salerno..He was the 1rst example of a witness scared straight ...nicky clouded the fuck out of his head..(Hey joe ,u wanna b part of this??..someday joe, were gonna own all this..fuckin'atlantic city)..u wanna b a gangster?..you gotta a gun u can bring us joe?......,,,,,,,,the same fuckin'gun that phil used to kill falcone
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
#864267
10/23/15 12:59 AM
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Just finished reading the mind blowing book "The Big White Lie: The Deep Cover Operation That Exposed the CIA Sabotage of The Drug War" by veteran DEA agent, Michael Levine.
Wow.
Anyone who hasn't read it should. It's funny. It's scary. It's angry. It's deliciously intriguing. It is filled with tense situations. It is filled with surprises. This is the type of book that you can't put down until you are done reading it. You literally take it everywhere with you.
I won't give away more than the title, but there is a lot more in the book than just the implications behind the title. The power structure of underworld society is a bit more convoluted than even what many a conspiracy theorist might suspect: At many different nexus points, the underworld sphere crosses over into the governmental sphere, meaning the actors are operating in both the criminal world and the governmental world, simultaneously, because they are both one and the same.
Michael Levine is an expert writer.
This book reads like a blockbuster movie.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: gangstereport]
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10/29/15 02:01 AM
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i enjoyed mob killer by carnelgia though i would have liked them to talk more about charles i guess there is a limit you can talk about
charles was one crazy fuck I don't believe Carneglia actually wrote that one. And yes, he was a monster that probably should have been whacked by law enforcement on sight.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Alfa Romeo]
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10/30/15 10:51 AM
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i enjoyed mob killer by carnelgia though i would have liked them to talk more about charles i guess there is a limit you can talk about
charles was one crazy fuck I don't believe Carneglia actually wrote that one. And yes, he was a monster that probably should have been whacked by law enforcement on sight. no he did not write the book he never ratted or anything defo a monster he was a junkie but the gottis kept him around because he was a killer and john carneligas brother they got him on four murders though feds think he killed alot more kevin mchanon said he talked about killings tramps and burning there bodies in acid a nutjob
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