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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Paul Cherry has more details arising from today's law-enforcement operation dubbed "Project MAGOT and MASTIFF" ("opération MAGOT et MASTIFF" in French). Leonardo Rizzuto seems to be identified as a co-leader of the Montreal Mafia. Mom Boucher and his daughter appear to have been in communication with Syndicates leader Gregory Woolley, a one-time bodyguard for Boucher, about the plot to kill Desjardins. Link to Cherry's article: http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...d-mafia-playersLink to a chart published by the Sûreté du Québec (SQ): http://www.sq.gouv.qc.ca/actualites/2015/2015-11-19_001_magot.pdf
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Holy crap, I knew it. Never imagined him being this deeply involved but wow. This seems to be a big bust. I know it's still early Anti, and nothing is clear or certain yet, but would you rank this bust, from what you know, alongside Operation COLISEE?
Judging from the recent article posted, it seems like with the arrest of Cavaliere, at least from what that article is assuming, that they may have had a wiretap in his office and these guys got caught up in a Stanfa-esque investigation. I mean where else would they get information aside from top informants, that Mom Boucher was involved in the plot, along with the mafia to murder Desjardins in prison? Wiretaps, there are other outlets, I suppose. But I'm just going with what I think is the most obvious....This is getting interesting.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book.  And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. 
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book.  And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. Do they have attorney-client priviledge in Canada like we do in the states? If they were meeting thinking they were in the clear and the government is going to somehow get that waved on a anti-mafia measure, well damn things are going to get wild.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Yea, I definitely think the Rizzuto's were behind De Vito's death. Even before this, I believed that. I'm waiting to see if there's any news on wiretaps, because if there is, I'd bet money that a lot of them come from the lawyers office, which could mean that the stuff on those tapes can write a book.  And Dix, lol, I really didn't mean to brag, man, it's just nice to be right sometimes. Do they have attorney-client priviledge in Canada like we do in the states? If they were meeting thinking they were in the clear and the government is going to somehow get that waved on a anti-mafia measure, well damn things are going to get wild. And article posted in this thread suggests that they may have been what happened. That they met under the assumption of the "attorney-client" priviledge thing.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Okay, new updates:
- This investigation was started in January 2013, a month after Vito Rizzuto died.
- Both Leonardo & Stefano are said by law enforcement to be the ones who took over the family after Vito died.
- Leonardo Rizzuto & Stefano Sollecito are alleged to have been the suppliers of narcotics to the Hells Angels and the other street gangs in Montreal.
- Gregory Wooley is alleged to be by law enforcement, as Nicaso always said, the link between the Montreal Mafia & The Hells Angels, as well as the street gangs.
- Cazzetta is accused and charged with distilling the illegal proceeds and collecting street taxes for the milieu.
- As I suspected yesterday, Lloris Cavaliere's arrest is in relation to him allowing his law office to be the safe haven of this triumvirate of Organized Crime. His office was used as a meeting spot to plan and plot criminal acts, which he actively participated in. Cavaliere is also suspected of being a long time member of the Rizzuto Family.
Mannnn, if it turns out they had that place tapped...
Oh, and I have yet to learn of Leonardo's or Stefano's or the Montreal Mafia period, being involved in the Desjardin's murder plot. Thats not to say they weren't involved, but none of the articles have mentioned that yet. An article by the National Post had an article and it stated that Mom Boucher, through an female messenger, plotted Desjardins along with Gregory Wooley. Messages were exchanged through the female, from Boucher, who then left the prison visits, back to the streets of Montreal and delivered said messages to Wooley. In the articles terms, Wooley then "executed" those messages. That could mean anything from using his own people and telling no one outside of those involved, or he could've recruited the help of the Montreal Mafia. I suspect more about that will be revealed later on, obviously.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Sinatra you have every right to brag  As for De Vito I agree, once I heard it was poisoning I thought Vito had something to do with it. I think this kind of confirms it as I imagine Boucher has a lot of sway in prison. You're right in that Leonardo/Stefano is not listed in the murder plot so far but I seriously doubt Boucher would go after Desjardins unless he had their backing. We have to remember the HA's and the Rizzuto's have always had a history together ever since the war between them and the Rock Machine was stopped. I just can't see them going after Desjardins "alone". It's also been thought that them and the gangs have been hitters for the Rizzuto's as well so it's plausible. Sinatra have you ever seen the Rizzuto tapes? Montreal Gazette has them online where Vito and Leonardo was on tape talking but it wasn't anything incriminating though. Surely they had Cavaliere's office tapped. As for lawyer/client privilege, yes they have it in Canada. I think that is the main reason Leonardo became a lawyer to get that right and to keep the RCMP off of them. I know police can tap a lawyer's office, but I think they have to prove they are not meeting for a consult or something. I've seen it done in the states before but I vaguely remember how it was done.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Indeed, Dixie. According to Antonio Nicaso, he had lost some trust among the Sicilian bunch because of his Calabrian origin and being too chummy at times with the guys from Ontario & Toronto. Of course this is all speculation, but after seeing much of what Nicaso once wrote in his book and articles actually play out this last past week or so, it's interesting to think about and to see how this situation plays out. The only thing is, who will be around from the younger administration that was just locked up, that will have the proper backing to go against Arcadi & possibly Giordano. One interesting name that hasn't popped up in these sweeps yet, and we have to find out if he will be at all, is Nicola Spagnolo. Alleged by other reporters to have been the third head of leadership at the supposed management table.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago. My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives. Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return. http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix
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