I don't understand why people think there isn't any money to be made. From one article:
The defense has argued that the machines are "nickel and dime" propositions and scoffed at the idea that Ligambi and his associates were lining their pockets with profits. But some law enforcement experts have said that machines in good locations can generate profits of $500 to $1,000-a-week.

Remember these guys had over 90 of these machines. $500X52 weeksX90 machines=$2,340,000 a year (minus the vendor's cut). Didn't that one gambling bust in 2007 take in $60 million in bets in over a year? That's at least $3,000,000 in profit. Add loan sharking, extortion and minor drug trafficking and these guys are pulling in more money the most.

Scarfo has a grandson that hangs out in AC and is a high roller. Not sure his name didnt ask him but it is true sorry if it gets you mad never said he was mobbed up

Who's his father. Which one of Scarfos sons? And the "always has a lot of guys around him", isn't implying that he's some mob associated heavyweight ? Lol. Sorry man, but reliable Philly posters are debunking your claims.

I think what the poster on RD could also be implying that the Philly Mob is an absolutely mess because of the factions and what sounds to me like petty bickering among many of the higher ups. Secondly, the Scott article about Borgesi hanging with Union guys is not what I meant. I'm not sure what union you're in SOPhilly but there's more than one and I believe that there's potentially some influence in at least two of the locals. Yes, not like Scarfo controlling local 54 or the roofers in the 80s. 100% agree and I wouldn't even call it controlling them just simply influence and they work together on stuff via their own construction firms etc. I'm not saying this is written in stone I just have reason to believe through some things I've seen, relationships I've observed and things I've found out via research so I'm not making a baseless claim, but simply coming to a hypothesis based on reasonable indications. Third, suburbs are mostly Delco. Delco isn't that far from the same kind of place South Philly is. Not talking the Main Line suburbs. Most of these Delco people and Washington Township people are south philly Italians who have family in the old neighborhood but want to get out of the hood... Slight step up but again not the Main Line or Chester County, etc. Finally, Nicky Whip most definitely did NOt rat. He served his 25 years in the can and even told his brother Gino, who did rat, to fuck himself when he tried to make a deal for him before testifying. He's back out on the street and I heard at first upon his release that the guys were skeptical about him especially Ligambi, but he seems to be back in the fold and associates with everyone and has lined up behind Joe Punge.

Most likely Chris' son if there's any truth to any of this. Mark obviously didn't have any kids and Nicky I think only has two young kids who were born in the 2000's so can't be more than 10-15 years old tops. Chris is the oldest and thus would have the oldest children and I believe he has done pretty well for himself in the real estate and insurance businesses around the Atlantic City area.

@Sinatra: Gino Milano died recently? I didn't know that... Not that it really matters, but I wonder what happened because he would be in his mid-50s/early 60s tops if he were around today so must have been some sort of disease or illness?

No, they're saying Philly is a mess because they aren't respected anymore. Thats exactly what was said. It isnt guys petty bickering, they simply aren't respected. Guys are talking down on them and have no fear of them whatsoever, because according those reliable sources, the Philly mob is a shell of itself. Underbosses being the best friends of informants and going on vacations together. A kid like Baldino having Johnny Chang side with him, over the real gangster. And again, according to those reliable sources, the Baldino kid DID do wrong, and deserves everything hes getting from Narducci. Former made men, backing away and opting to do their own thing.

Thats why theyre saying Philly is a mess. And the Scott and George A article may not have been what you meant. But thats the only two articles that mentioned a made member having anything to do with construction and unions. And you even said yourself on the last page that you have no proof to back up this claim of yours, so how can you assume they have their hands in construction and unions? Not saying there's no merit in what you say, I'm just legit wondering how you reached that conclusion.

And I remember hearing Gino died a few years ago. I could be mistaken though, as I'm not finding anything that confirms it.

Looks like the one who just got arrested recently dont know much about him but he does exist unless people are lying. High roller

Who just got arrested recently? There hasn't been any Philly guys recently arrested, except for Frank Narducci.

Stogies is Passyunk and Moore, was the old hang out where the kitchen is now located or the yoga place?

Yes, the Camac & Moore clubhouse was the one that Crow and Charlie White hung out at. Chucky Merlino's place was down the street a few blocks and was a completely difference clubhouse/building on Sartain & Moore Streets. And yeah the Scarfo HQ was obviously in AC, I meant the de-facto HQ in Philly for the Scarfo guys that were in Philly was Camac & Moore, which is now Stogie Joe's.

The scarfo that was in the paper maybe it was couple years ago looks like him maybe his kid someone said he has a yacht ask around

No not the yoga place, but the yoga place is across the street on the same side of the street as the building/former clubhouse's entrance, which was on the corner of Camac & Moore and is now the back side of Stogies and is now the kitchen and kitchen/back entrance. The front of Stogies is on Passyunk Avenue and now the front entrance of that building/restaurant post-recent renovations.

Scarfo Jr was arrested years ago. He was sentenced in AC about a year ago to 30 years for a white collar extortion scheme. HE had a yacht, which was named "Priceless". And you're saying it looks like him, yet Nicky Jr has no adult children. Perhaps Nicky Jr IS who youre talking about.

Unless he got out not him another one looks like him

Yea, okay.

My mistake your right probably was JR. you seem to know your shit so will go with what you say. Didnt come from a reliable source

I don't know anything..I just know a lot of that sounds like Jr. Scarfo. He lived in AC, according to law, was richer than most wise guys from his area and day, owned a yacht. And had a crew of wannabes who wanted to be around him. Thats all I'm saying.

Chris Jr and Michael Ferry. Are one of these the grandkids you're talking about? They both appear to be legitimate, Michael has a linkedin account, which promotes him and his brothers rehab business, which they just started last year. Chris Jr, is said to be active in his fathers insurance business down in Florida, where his father mostly stays, and the Jersey shore. I asked around, no one can confirm either guys "high roller" status though. And Chris Jr does kind of look like Nicky Jr. My apologies.

No wasnt them never heard of them this was another guy and I was fed bad info. Never heard or seen the two you are talking about and my quess is they are straight as a arrow. No need to apologize all in fun

Gino Milano died? Didnt he just testify in the first Ligambi trial i thought? I could be wrong..

He was scheduled to. I dont think he ever did. And like I said before, I could be wrong on the death aspect.

Oh yea didn't read that until after I posted. I'm gonna look into it a little more and if I find confirmation that hes dead ill post what i find

"Chris Scarfo Jr., 27, of Lower Alloways Creek, was arrested and charged with loitering with the intent to
commit a controlled dangerous substance offense. He was served with a summons complaint and released
pending a court appearance."

http://www.salemcountyprosecutor.org/wp-content/uploads/News/2007/20071003.pdf?600bc9

Same Chris Scarfo?

Probably not, because they're last name isn't Scarfo, it's Ferry. Could be though, I'm hearing now that Chris distancing himself from his father may have been exaggerated.

Chris Scarfo never left the area, he has always been around AC, south jersey and south philly.

Eugene Milano isn't dead. And, he has been around philly a hell of a lot more than anyone thinks. He and his brother have a relationship.

That's why they are probably accusing him of being a rat. I know ligambi said the whip was a rat because he was hanging around with his brother.

I understand why the whip hangs around with him it is his brother rat or no rat

That was the story people said on here a few years ago about Milano, Ligambi wouldn't welcome him back because he was still in contact with his brother, I don't understand it though, didn't his brother rat on him? I doubt Punge would associate with him if that was true though.

Dom Grande did the right thing and refused to speak to his dad, I'm sure the whole family didnt speak to him after he ratted?

Surely blood family means more than crime family.

Dom Grande is a moron.

Gino testified against his brother. When he made the deal it included the whip but Nicky refused to accept it and join his brother in the program the whip wouldn't rat. I don't find it hard to believe they are brothers and I don't think the whip was annoyed I don't think he was angry as time went on. Remember when this went down guys like the whip and gino were very young in there 20a

Gino was never loyal to LCN he was loyal to testa and when testa got killed he not happy. Joey pung prob understands why the whip speaks with his brother plus joey pung was close to the whip and gino they were very friendly.

Joe grande and Dom grande did refuse to speak to Wayne after he flipped I don't agree with that.Tony scadfi is another one I don't think was annoyed when his brother flipped

It is his brother family is family