In the Sopranos said that at their peak the mob have max 5000 made men on milion of honest italian-americans;while the max part of the people arrested are blacks or Latinos,so in 2016 the US had an Irish president,a black president and in the future a women president and a latino president.
So the question is:there was no italian candidate for president because the mob infamous sthereotipe or for other reasons ?
The forum members in the usa know a strong italian candidate for a future election ?
Thanks Again.

Bad luck.

It will happen eventually. Mafia is irrelevant nowadays. No one cares.

It is not a matter of ethnic, but a matter of religion Furio. I believe this thread should be moved to a different category. A large majority of Italians are Catholic, and the last and only President who was Catholic was John F. Kennedy, who barely won his presidency against Nixon.

There is a book called Macaluso go to the white house, where the mob grow up a man for became the US president.
For the etnic for sure at the jfk time but now shall be different. Anyone know the names of strong italian politics ?

Guiliani, Pelosi and Cuomo.

More comprehensive list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian-American_politicians_by_state




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Eh, Jeb is a converted Catholic, and that was never an issue. He's just a loser in general.

Americans hate Muslims and Blacks mostly. And they elected Barack (yes, I am aware he is not Muslim. Unfortunately, a large percentage of the country isn't.) They'll deal with an Italian eventually.

Chris Christie is half Italian, does that count Furio?

He was related to Tino Fiumara on his mother's side..

He's not the President, so no.

I mean with an italian surname. And no Christie doesn't count.

Don't know but it's possible and yet does it really matter? Heck I'm still wondering why we don't have a Native yet. *Shrugs*

TOO MANY WASP'S

I would not feel comfortable with an Italian American president.

Harry Truman was considered a street guy by some mob guys like Stefano Maggadino, the KC guys and the Outfit guys he personally paroled out of prison. Thats close enough.

Wasn't he a farmer?

Why is that?


Are you also uncomfortable with having one as a long term Supreme Court Justice?

Idk about that, but he came from the notoriously corrupt Pendergrast Machine in Kansas City, that's why they say he was a street guy. Not that he was necessarily from the streets, but he dealt with those types and did his own dirt to get ahead.

Ralphie_cifaretto do you prefer a woman president?

Maybe Sarah Palin the woman with the iron ovaies
or Hillary Rodham Clinton, that for me deserve to be president only for what suffered for stay with bill "play my sax,baby" clinton

NYC had Fiorello LaGuardia as it's Mayor in 1934-1945.....He was Italian with an Italian accent.....He went after LCN! He smashed their poker machines with a sledgehammer on national television and dumped them in the Hudson.

I'm sure if there was a good candidate it would not matter at all about being Italian-American, certainly perceptions of the Mafia in this day and age has little or no bearing. We get a ton of Americans down here in the ski Season and summer, my house mate is From New Jersey, he was surprised that the mafia even still existed, he couldn't name one family let alone 5. Generally speaking no one cares or thinks about them today there pretty insignificant. One guy I spoke to from Chicago the other day, probably in his 70s was telling me about back in the day in Chicago and the mob, when I asked him about today he said "jeez those guys are still around?!' lol.

I think that after Rodney King case is more easy to say that all italians are mobster (totally untrue) that the most part of the criminals are blacks or latinos.

Exactly. It's a cop out when people say mafioso were forced into that life with no alternative.

Some of the key players in taking down the mob in the 80's were Italian-Americans; Giuliani, Pistone, Bonavalonta....

As for the presidency thing, Giuliani could have got to that position.

Giuliani is too old.And had cancer.

Furio,

Generally speaking, the stereotypes about Italians can be more damaging to an American candidate of that background, than stereotypes about Blacks can be for American candidates who are Black.

Black negative stereotypes center around street crimes and violence.
The LCN by perception and reality is/was criminal enterprise with far reaching tentacles in legit and underworld rackets.

So the high achieving, successful affluent Italian American is often painted with the mafia stereotype because the mafia's reach and scope extends to legit businesses and industries.

In my experience, people who don't like Italians use the stereotypes exclusively towards affluent Italian Americans. Nothing hurts bigots more than for a member of a group that they feel "above" to become successful. It threatens them and their beliefs, so easier for them to believe that this Ital. American accountant or entrepreneur is "connected" than that hard work and studying got him where he is.

In my time on earth, the times I've heard other whites use the mafia tag about someone, it was ALWAYS a person who seemed to be doing better than them. Maybe Jersey is just different, but out here different White ethnics are at each other's THROATS..and like I said in the post that I deleted...Italian Americans have a LOT of economic & political power in this region so not everybody is going to be happy about that.

I think this applies to bigots of all backgrounds.It's not the ones who live up to the stereotypes that threaten people's views, it's the ones who don't.

And for the record, Rudy dropping out of the Senator's race had more to do with the Clinton's playing rough than "fighting illness" did.

Clintons' hands were ALL OVER the books that were scheduled to be released during the Senate race exposing Rudy's skeletons.

Clintons' hands are all over bridge-gate also..and derailing Christie's so called cakewalk to the Rep. nomination.

La Guardia? Both of you better do more research. Did he come up with that idea about going after Wiseguys and OC while he was fighting off hoods in Little Italy during his childhood? Oh wait...he spent most of his childhood in Arizona.

Giuliani is not squeaky clean so you can take him off your list too.

You might as well take Pistone out too cuz he ain't a saint either.

Find some better examples. Real hard working Italians who started in Little Italy or other areas of the country where hoods were on every street corner.

You know next to nil about the Italian-American ppl or OC of years ago. Most of OC came here with ties to the Sicilian Mafia or Camorra. It was a family thing back then, you didn't choose the life. They chose it for you. (Prohibition gave small time thugs an opportunity to get rich quick. They made up the other portion of OC and the American Mafia.) But the majority of Italian American were hard working ppl who had to walk in the gutter and were discriminated against, treated like fn dogs.

Excellent posts Gets.

Giuliani was also too socially liberal for the hardcore GOP base. And being Catholic, he'd be a no no for many of the American religious nuts that think the Catholic church is Satanic.

If you want to see some intense anti Catholic bigotry, check out the comment section at The Blaze any time they run a story on the church.

It's something I don't encounter in life, because most of the North Eastern part of the US doesn't have that prejudice in the same way, but when I'm on the web sometimes it blows my mind.

Alfanosgirl, I still don't get from your post, what's wrong with La Guardia? I agree about Pistone and Giuliani though.

You could narrow it down and say that every ethnic group that wasn't WASP or German was discriminated against up until the turn of the 19th century.

No one ethnicity has a monopoly on being discriminated against.

Apart from Kennedy and Obama, has any President not being a WASP, Dutch or German?

Ronald Reagan was half-Irish but he had to tone that down for his base.