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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
[Re: olivant]
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05/12/16 08:36 PM
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In GF2, when they get to Florida and Michael drives while his bodyguard occupies the back seat, is that some Mafia technique or are they emphasizing that the bodyguard is an old country guy who couldn't cope with modern traffic? Or something else? It's just a strategy to protect Michael. Yes. Notice that the bodyguard is looking around while Michael is driving--he's doing his job.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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05/19/16 07:59 AM
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When Sonny goes charging out to confront the FBI guys parked outside Connie's wedding, Paulie follows him at a safe distance. After Sonny spits on the FBI guy's I.D., and turns to go back inside, Paulie, still at a safe distance, makes the sine of the "cornudo" (two fingers) at the FBI guy. Coward! Yes, I noticed that, TB. Also, in that same scene, Paulie has his hand half way under his jacket appearing ready to draw a weapon. Really? You're gonna pull a weapon on the FBI at The Corleone Mall on the day of Connie's wedding?
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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06/28/16 04:14 PM
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johnny ola
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Very nice touch. That whole scene was very powerful. And realistic:
Prominent Nevadans of that period, who could trace their ancestry in the state back three or more generations, believed they were entitled to play by their own rules and dictate terms to "outsiders" like Michael. You saw another view of the same attitude in "Casino," when County Commissioner Webb confronts Ace Rothstein about getting his worthless brother in law reinstated in a juiced-in job. I believe Oli posted that Texans have the same attitude. Great scene in Casino. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L5Zx34mjUU"your people will never understand how things work out here"
I love my Chrysler and tuna fish sandwiches.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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06/28/16 04:21 PM
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johnny ola
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When Michael returns to snowy Tahoe and his big black car passes through the gate, the guard closes the gate with a big ADT Home Security logo visible.
The big black car is a real rarity: a '58 Chrysler Imperial Crown Ghia limo, one of <25 built by Ghia of Turin and, at ~$14k, the most expensive American car of that year. Anyone could have found a Cadillac limo of that era--trust FFC to use this rarity for six seconds in GFII. BTW: If you look closely at the windshield of the red and black '58 Ford Custom 500 that Michael drives to his meeting with Roth in Miami, you'll see a Florida vehicle inspection sticker from the Seventies. Just one of the non stereotypical cars Mike rode around in. Seems the only time he rode in a black Cadillac, is when he came back from Italy, and found Kay. The first limo we see him in post Cadillac was the Packard. Great job on describing what the car was It really is a rarity. Took me a while to understand the difference between a Chrysler, Chrysler Imperial and Imperial. This car is different from all three.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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06/29/16 08:52 PM
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The first limo we see him in post Cadillac was the Packard. If I'm not mistaken, the next limo we see Michael in after the New Hampshire Cad ['47?], was a '54 Imperial as he was pulling up to Moe Greene's hotel. Good eye.....but did we actually see him in the car? LOL Look closely at the pic. It looks like Fredo in the front seat looking toward the back seat. I would guess that Mike was in the back seat. Was this Mikes car, or was it Moe Greenes? [img] http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_8442-Chrysler-Crown-Imperial-C-66-1954.html[/img]
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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06/30/16 04:35 PM
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May have been the Hotel's "VIP" limo. For that matter, the '58 Ghia Imperial may have been a de luxe airport limo for Michael, not his own ride. He may have had more modest tastes. For example: The car that Kay tries to go shopping in, and was stopped at the gate to the Tahoe compound, was a '57 Buick Special wagon (note the plain-Jane interior), a far cry from the higher end Roadmaster wagon. The rental car that Michael drove to Roth's house was a low-end '58 Ford Custom 500.
For this car buff, GFII is paradise for Fifties classics.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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06/30/16 09:30 PM
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Yeah, tough guy Paulie with his hand on a gun in front of the fbi.
Also noticed today after watching g2 for the 1000th time - noticed the look on johnny fontaines face when Mike presents the " offer " to appear in Vegas and for some of johnnys' friends to do so also - the look is almost like " I knew there would be huge favors asked ".
When barzini is walking through that building prior to bring shot by neri, he is all alone, no bodyguard, no witnesses. That would have been the perfect time to take him out. They could have had 2 or 3 guys in there with knives, stab him to death, walk out and nobody would have known what happened.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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06/30/16 10:07 PM
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May have been the Hotel's "VIP" limo. For that matter, the '58 Ghia Imperial may have been a de luxe airport limo for Michael, not his own ride. He may have had more modest tastes. For example: The car that Kay tries to go shopping in, and was stopped at the gate to the Tahoe compound, was a '57 Buick Special wagon (note the plain-Jane interior), a far cry from the higher end Roadmaster wagon. The rental car that Michael drove to Roth's house was a low-end '58 Ford Custom 500.
For this car buff, GFII is paradise for Fifties classics. Yes it is. The only other Cadillac limo we see,that might be connected with Mike, could be the 56 Cadillac limo parked outside of the Washington Hotel. With its custom rear window, it appear to be a Derham custom. It does appear with Mike's modest taste in cars, he wanted to keep a low profile. [img] http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_697863.html[/img]
I love my Chrysler and tuna fish sandwiches.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
[Re: olivant]
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07/02/16 09:00 PM
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I think this has been discussed before on the Board, but I can't remember for sure.
Why wasn't Fredo at his father's funeral? Fredo WAS there at the funeral. For whatever reason, he wasn't shown in most of the scenes (especially any close-up shots). But you can see him getting out of one of the cars as the funeral procession first arrived at the cemetery.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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07/02/16 09:13 PM
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I think this has been discussed before on the Board, but I can't remember for sure.
Why wasn't Fredo at his father's funeral? Fredo WAS there at the funeral. For whatever reason, he wasn't shown in most of the scenes (especially any close-up shots). But you can see him getting out of one of the cars as the funeral procession first arrived at the cemetery. Okay, I'll look for that in the Epic. But I wonder why FFC didn't group Fredo, Connie, Michael , and Tom in one of the funeral scenes.
Last edited by olivant; 07/02/16 09:13 PM.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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07/02/16 10:26 PM
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Also can you car guys tell me what was the make and model of the black and silver car that led Vito's ambulance from the hospital? It's a '46 Cadillac Series 62. The two-tone paint is an anomaly--it wasn't a factory option. You see Clemenza getting into the passenger side, but it's not the same '46 Cad that was in his garage in a deleted scene. Thanks TB. Also, to SC: on Youtube I watched the funeral scene and saw Mama being escorted by Tom followed by Fredo.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
[Re: olivant]
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07/06/16 08:19 AM
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Okay, I'll look for that in the Epic. But I wonder why FFC didn't group Fredo, Connie, Michael , and Tom in one of the funeral scenes.
This is pure guesswork: there's a lingering shot of Clemenza at the casket, and Michael watching him like a hawk, just before Tessio closes on Barzini just for a second and then comes to Michael. So my guess is that there could some footage of Michael watching Fredo closely, which would require that Fredo be at a distance.
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Re: Did anyone else notice that .......
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08/01/16 11:16 AM
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In the saga version, when fabrizo is leaving his pizza shop, he walks around to get into his car, he unlocks the door and the drivers side window is down. I'm sure ffc did it for effect, but he could have just pulled the door knob up and unlocked it.
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