Even if you disagree on the strength and numbers of the Detroit fam, the fact that they have a fully functional admin all on the street and at least 3, possibly 4 crews makes it clear to me theyre not close to being defunct...imo i would say the Decavs are the closest to being defunct or more likely absorbed into one of the NY fams? I may very well be wrong and im happy to admit it, but i don't recall any concrete list of the family admin and who the actual skippers and what crews they have? Im sure a more knowledgeable poster can correct me on this though