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Re: Did Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes surpass the Mafia
[Re: FireHawk]
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05/17/16 06:19 PM
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Wow this blew out of proportions quickly. I wonder why it became 3 pages so quickly. Hopefully everyone will be level headed by now. Let's continue gentlemen...
@ Ivy Speaking in the short time frame (late 60s to mid 70s) and specifically in the drug racket , I would say that only Frank Matthews Syndicate & to a lesser extent the North Carolina Mob was comparable or more than the NYC families drug business. Yes the NYC metro is the largest in our country but having an operation within 21 states is far more of a whale. North Carolina Mob I'm not sure but the revenues from their smuggling operation was vast as well. As it already been said by you and others that when including the other rackets it's not comparable in which I agree. Now you have stated the Italians have that criminal tradition which your right and I have mentioned it in another post. The group's identity is an off-shoot from Siciliy and have been active for decades before coming to America. Criminal groups that been in existence for at least 20 years & spread to other areas tend to adapt to times. So your wrong in referring to the Chinese as new groups when they been active prior to LCN formation but just a looser or different hierarchy coupled with limited expansion ( they just don't care to leave Chinatowns). America's traditional groups will be the 1%ers, Prison Mobs, & Street Gangs. These are our homegrown groups that have no foreign roots.
@ CabriniGreen Brother take a break , LoL. I've my numerous debates and enlightments on Black Organized Crime and the beat keeps on.
@ Ralphie Black Organized Crime are footnotes mainly because the "scholars, police, Feds , & criminologist " of those times didn't believe it's possible due to the "Jim Crow" mentality. Therefore you have a tremendous lack of historic research that's overlook. YouTube "Black Mafia" by Sean Patrick Griffin and listen to how he stated that his peers reaction to his reaction. There's many active Black syndicates throughout the our country but they don't have an collective identity such as the " inset name of old age syndicate". Outside of the drug trade, Me & Scorsese have posted up different black groups focus on gambling, prostitution, murder for hire, chop shops, extortion, & fraud. On a worldwide scale you can't overlook the Nigerian syndicates since they spreaded out their networks faster than most other syndicates.
In regards to historical Harlem & Bumpy Johnson being the front for the Genovese, I could view that being true. Even though that was a short span for the Italians overall since the Black racketeers regain full control of the numbers into the rest of the 60s & so on.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: Did Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes surpass the Mafia
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05/18/16 03:54 AM
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Frank Lucas was a genius because no one knew who the fuck he was. I was around the heroin business since I was in my teens in East Harlem. I never even heard of Frank Lucas till the movie came out.
I knew of Nicky Barnes and I knew of Bumby Johnson. You most likely never heard of Philip Wu he went to my grammar school. He was another guy that bought his dope from the same place where Lucas got his dope.
A genius in the dope business is someone you probably never heard of not someone you have heard of. ehh People knew who Al Capone was, and yet he still was extremely successful and only got caught on tax returns
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Re: Did Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes surpass the Mafia
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05/18/16 10:41 AM
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Obama's a white man at heart. What does that mean? I personally think he's one of the best presidents America has ever had. How old are you what has Obama done that was great? Unemployment is down? They keep moronic unemployment records today. Let's say you can't find work and stop looking. To the government your no longer unemployed. Go on welfair and stop looking. Your no longer unemployed. Remember he spent billions on shovel ready construction jobs that never were built. The electric car government bought with tax payer money it went under. That great peace deal with Iran? We are getting the extra bathroom for transgenders. They are 0.03 percent of our population maybe. Obama hates fracking it is a fact that fracking limits greenhouse gases. This bozo did what for the country again?
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Re: Did Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes surpass the Mafia
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Obama's a white man at heart. What does that mean? I personally think he's one of the best presidents America has ever had. How old are you what has Obama done that was great? Unemployment is down? They keep moronic unemployment records today. Let's say you can't find work and stop looking. To the government your no longer unemployed. Go on welfair and stop looking. Your no longer unemployed. Remember he spent billions on shovel ready construction jobs that never were built. The electric car government bought with tax payer money it went under. That great peace deal with Iran? We are getting the extra bathroom for transgenders. They are 0.03 percent of our population maybe. Obama hates fracking it is a fact that fracking limits greenhouse gases. This bozo did what for the country again? He did a lot of for America and the world. Below is a link where 358 Obama accomplishments are listed. http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/
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