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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
[Re: mightyhealthy]
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Desjardins ended the exchange with: “K lol”
Great sendoff as you sign off on a murder.
By the way, fantastic article. Thanks. The Gazette didn't include the message he sent after that: "OMG! U c he die? ROFL. Guy shd ttly stayd in NY. Dis how we do up in Canada 4eal. Kinda pity guy ttly had cutest butt tho.."
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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That was a great read. I still can't beliveve Montagna had some people on his side. I mean, he got deported and shortly after he's all over the place making moves, meeting people etc. He had some power but... How did that happen??? He really had no people on his side, his Ontario connections came from Mirarchi and Desjardins in all likelihood. He was simply someone who was willing to capitalize on Rizzuto being gone and the weakened state of his mafia family. Something Desjardins already had in mind to do long before with Giuseppe De Vito. Montagna in all likelihood simply hooked up with members of that group, which is something that's supported in the book, Business or Blood. Di Maulo brought people to him, as well as the Arcuri brothers. So everyone around him, other than maybe Tony Magi, were introduced to Montagna through other people. And again, once Desjardins withdrew his support, Montagna's Ontario connections dissipated, those who stayed with him, which were like four or five guys aside from the Arcuris, guys like Larry LoPresti and Tony Suzuki, were hit after Montagna. Suzuki survived only to be killed years later . But Montagna was the first of his group to die. Those who weren't hit afterwards abandoned his cause.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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He really had no people on his side, his Ontario connections came from Mirarchi and Desjardins in all likelihood. He was simply someone who was willing to capitalize on Rizzuto being gone and the weakened state of his mafia family. Something Desjardins already had in mind to do long before with Giuseppe De Vito. Montagna in all likelihood simply hooked up with members of that group, which is something that's supported in the book, Business or Blood. Di Maulo brought people to him, as well as the Arcuri brothers. So everyone around him, other than maybe Tony Magi, were introduced to Montagna through other people. And again, once Desjardins withdrew his support, Montagna's Ontario connections dissipated, those who stayed with him, which were like four or five guys aside from the Arcuris, guys like Larry LoPresti and Tony Suzuki, were hit after Montagna. Suzuki survived only to be killed years later . But Montagna was the first of his group to die. Those who weren't hit afterwards abandoned his cause. Suzuki is still alive. But please continue pulling things out of your ass.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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guys like Larry LoPresti and Tony Suzuki, were hit after Montagna. Suzuki survived only to be killed years later . To the best of my knowledge Tony Suzuki is still alive and well at this point, I did a check and didn't seem to find anything online about him dying, do you know otherwise?
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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06/10/16 08:13 PM
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He really had no people on his side, his Ontario connections came from Mirarchi and Desjardins in all likelihood. He was simply someone who was willing to capitalize on Rizzuto being gone and the weakened state of his mafia family. Something Desjardins already had in mind to do long before with Giuseppe De Vito. Montagna in all likelihood simply hooked up with members of that group, which is something that's supported in the book, Business or Blood. Di Maulo brought people to him, as well as the Arcuri brothers. So everyone around him, other than maybe Tony Magi, were introduced to Montagna through other people. And again, once Desjardins withdrew his support, Montagna's Ontario connections dissipated, those who stayed with him, which were like four or five guys aside from the Arcuris, guys like Larry LoPresti and Tony Suzuki, were hit after Montagna. Suzuki survived only to be killed years later . But Montagna was the first of his group to die. Those who weren't hit afterwards abandoned his cause. Suzuki is still alive. But please continue pulling things out of your ass. Jesus, you ever heard of a mistake ? I was confusing him with someone else mentioned in Business or Blood, I can't remember whom, but someone was hit, survived and then hit after Rizzuto was out and died. And again, please inform me what I'm pulling out of my ass. Edit: It was Tonino Callochia.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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06/13/16 08:11 PM
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Sal Montagna's wife testifies against Desjardins. http://www.torontosun.com/2016/06/09/i-w...-husband-killedSo ironic in so many ways.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/06...arrain-decrypteFrench article by Journal, which supports my claim that Montagna may not have actually developed such strong ties and alliances with Southern Ontario mobsters, or many Montreal mobsters for that matter, all on his own and relied a lot on Desjardins and by extension, Vittorio Mirarchi. To his defense later on, Mirarchi at least seemed worried at the fact that Moreno Gallo had sent Montagna weapons and other things, and Montagna's claim of bringing NY guys down to aide him. Which according to Antonio Nicaso & Peter Edwards, in the Business Or Blood book, may have been some hot air.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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So basically Montagna had little to no influence, any reason why they would work with him though? Perhaps to use him as a cover? Because they respected him, initially. Montagna was already known as a messenger between the Montreal members and New York. The authors of Mafia Inc. state in their book that after Montagna settled in Montreal and was introduced to Desjardins that the two decided to work together and conspire against the Rizzuto family. Anyways, all these articles make it seem like Desjardins was the one calling the shots and many people answered to him, did he work under Di Maulo's banner or was he a leader on his own? The guy had some serious power and influence for a non-Italian. I haven't seen much evidence to suggest that was he actually working for Di Maulo. But I'm sure that Di Maulo's status helped him to achieve his own.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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Because they respected him, initially. Montagna was already known as a messenger between the Montreal members and New York. The authors of Mafia Inc. state in their book that after Montagna settled in Montreal and was introduced to Desjardins that the two decided to work together and conspire against the Rizzuto family. I can't imagine being a Bonnano meant a whole lot at this time in Montreal. So I'm guessing they just took him on board as an extra body for help because he was already a mobster and knew the game? He probably assumed that he can run them because he had a high rank back in NY and they welcomed him, guess he was wrong. I haven't seen much evidence to suggest that was he actually working for Di Maulo. But I'm sure that Di Maulo's status helped him to achieve his own.
So then who did he answer to? I understand that prior to all of this Vito was his boss and he was a close associate, but if he ran this crew and flipped on the Rizzuto family, who was giving the orders if not for Di Maulo? Why would Vito kill Di Maulo? Obviously it was either he was the head or one of the leaders of the opposition, or he chose to keep quite and do nothing to stop the war.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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06/15/16 06:38 PM
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Because they respected him, initially. Montagna was already known as a messenger between the Montreal members and New York. The authors of Mafia Inc. state in their book that after Montagna settled in Montreal and was introduced to Desjardins that the two decided to work together and conspire against the Rizzuto family. I can't imagine being a Bonnano meant a whole lot at this time in Montreal. So I'm guessing they just took him on board as an extra body for help because he was already a mobster and knew the game? He probably assumed that he can run them because he had a high rank back in NY and they welcomed him, guess he was wrong. I guess they took him in because he represented the Bonannos and killing Nick Rizzuto would've required an official sanction. So then who did he answer to? I understand that prior to all of this Vito was his boss and he was a close associate, but if he ran this crew and flipped on the Rizzuto family, who was giving the orders if not for Di Maulo? Why would Vito kill Di Maulo? Obviously it was either he was the head or one of the leaders of the opposition, or he chose to keep quite and do nothing to stop the war. I think that he answered to himself. By that time Desjardins had become a force to be reckoned with. But I've little doubt that at the very least he had support from Di Maulo for obvious reasons. I think Di Maulo was killed for not only doing anything to stop the putch, but also because he seemed to have had an advisory role to Desjardins and in effect Montagna.
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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09/12/16 09:42 AM
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mikey: Your options: 1. Use Google Translate (translate.google.com) by copying and pasting the article link in the empty field. 2. If you're on a laptop/PC, use the mouse to right-click on the article -- you will probably see a menu option to translate the article to English. 3. If you're using the Chrome browser on a laptop/PC, Chrome may automatically translate for you -- this depends on your settings. The article to which I first linked is part 1 of a 3-part series. Below is the link to part 2: "Caïd nerveux, mais accueillant" http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/09/12/caid-nerveux-mais-accueillant
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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The first article you posted on this page yesterday, Anti, the one with the photo of Vito Rizzuto sitting on the arm of the chair , laughing and looking down at another man, who's the guy next to him? I'm assuming Joe DiMaulo but not certain. [snip] I'm not seeing that photo. When I first saved the article in Evernote, the photo at the following URL was saved along with it: http://storage.journaldemontreal.com/v1/...5&size=968xOnline today, I'm also seeing the photo of just Rizzuto alone. Are you viewing the article on a mobile? Whether yes or no, do you have the URL for the image you're asking about?
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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed!
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The first article you posted on this page yesterday, Anti, the one with the photo of Vito Rizzuto sitting on the arm of the chair , laughing and looking down at another man, who's the guy next to him? I'm assuming Joe DiMaulo but not certain. [snip] I'm not seeing that photo. When I first saved the article in Evernote, the photo at the following URL was saved along with it: http://storage.journaldemontreal.com/v1/...5&size=968xOnline today, I'm also seeing the photo of just Rizzuto alone. Are you viewing the article on a mobile? Whether yes or no, do you have the URL for the image you're asking about? That's the photo he's talking about. And again, the man with Vito is Raynald's brother, Jacques Desjardins. http://storage.journaldemontreal.com/v1/...&version=25
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