Even cops no need for them either. Worst thing was let cops have guns..

The first thing socialists try to do is take away all guns. So the people can stand against them.

Good news it will still be easy to get illegal guns.

Well, the Riviera bit the dust today. Nostalgia loses another landmark.

Also, today is flag day.

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2016/06/14/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-emails/


Wikileaks says they have emails containing information that may lead to her indictment

SACRAMENTO – A few short hours after dozens were gunned down at a gay club in Orlando, on Sunday, the Rev. Roger Jimenez delivered his sermon from his Sacramento pulpit. "Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today? No ... I think that's great. I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida's a little safer tonight," he said to the crowd of believers in front of him. A link on his church's Facebook page, Verity Baptist Church, directed viewers to the sermon on YouTube. "It is unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man," he said as he preached for more than an hour. "The tragedy is that more of them didn't die," he said.

Hey, Rev. Roger Jimenez- drop dead.

Man he is fucked up. Actually happy that 50 people are dead. No one from his church said anything? They agreed with him?

Sort of like the church Obama used to attend with the rev wright Obama never complained about what he said when he and his wife attended that church either.

Disgusting, thats religion for you though....They all absolutely hate gay people with a passion, every book they believe in tell them they should...watch all the others off shoots/religions line up to hate this guy though and expound the virtues of their own fantasy hairy bearded hero ....double standard, fact dodging assholes, every one of them

"America has now averaged one serious Islamic terrorist attack a year on President Obama’s watch, yet he still insists the threat from radical Islam is overblown and that he’s successfully protecting the nation.

If only hubris could be weaponized!

In the wake of Omar Mateen’s Orlando massacre, Obama whined about growing criticism of his terror-fighting strategy. But boy, does he deserve it. His record on terrorism is terrible, and Hillary Clinton should have a tough time defending it.

Here we are in the eighth year of his presidency, and the nation has now suffered eight significant attacks by Islamist terrorists on US soil or diplomatic property — an average of one attack a year since Obama’s been in office, with each new attack seemingly worse than the last.

And there’s six long months left to go.

Obama said Orlando “marks the most deadly shooting in American history.” Actually, it was the second-worst act of terrorism in American history, replacing in six short months the San Bernardino massacre as the deadliest terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/16/america-has-suffered-a-terror-attack-every-year-under-obama/

On “The 700 Club,” televangelist Pat Robertson reacted to the massacre at an Orlando gay club by making the absurd claim that liberal LGBT rights advocates have aligned themselves with radical Islamists and are now reaping what they have sowed.

Robertson said that liberals are facing a “dilemma” because they love both LGBT equality and Islamic extremism, and that it is better for conservatives like himself not to get involved but to instead just watch the two groups kill each other.
“The left is having a dilemma of major proportions and I think for those of us who disagree with some of their policies, the best thing to do is to sit on the sidelines and let them kill themselves,” he told his audience.

I think Obama and Hillary must be fucking muslems or they love their money donations. Do you think that jackass killer was a muslem extremist or not?

I know you don't see it but there is some truth there. As I mentioned below, liberals have always been strange bedfellows with Islam, as polar opposites as they seem. It's why we see Western Europe bending over backwards as they're invaded and those on the left here in the US so slow to talk about radical Islam and change the subject to gun control and blaming Christians for "creating an environment of hate." Watch the video of the leftist douchebags who gathered in Greenwich Village after the shooting. Virtually none of them would identify the real problem.




Obama is no more a Muslim than he is a Christian. He had to play along early on to get the black vote but it's obvious he's your typical secular leftist who really doesn't give a damn about religion and probably views it with contempt.

That said, like most liberals, he has sympathies for Islam - as unlikely as that seems on its face. There are a variety of reasons for those strange bedfellows. In the case of the Orlando shooter, we're seeing the usual effort to be politically correct (not referring to radical Islam) and attempting to change the narrative to gun control and "homophobia."

obama spent 20 years on the southside of chicago dealing in politics

he got the black vote because he was the 1st black nominee (get over it already)

the shooting in orlando was more of a hate crime than a terroist attack

Or, maybe this is your way of spinning from the fact that guns are the problem.

Overgeneralization fallacy, anyone? No, it's not "religion is the problem." All religions didn't murder 49 people in a Florida nightclub. It was a member of one specific religion, the same religion that has a long record or killing gays, Christians, Jews, Hindus, and "hypocrites." They even kill atheists. And don't be so smug since there have been atheist organizations that have persecuted gay people too.



No, it was a terrorist attack and specifically a Muslim terrorist attack. It is Sharia (Islamic law) that says that homosexuals are to be put to death. It's a command. Killing gays isn't an act of hate, it's an act of devotion to Allah's commands. For more on this, read this excellent article which quotes standard Sunni sources: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/43...p;utm_term=VDHM



Those guns are amazing how they walk into clubs by themselves and shoot themselves off like that. Just like those jets that flew themselves into the World Trade Center on 9/11. Remember when we banned planes because of how they flew themselves into buildings and intentionally murdered people? Planes are the problem.

Donald Trump split Monday with campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, in arguably the highest-profile staff shake-up of the 2016 season – a move that comes after a tumultuous period for the billionaire businessman, and just weeks before he is set to claim the Republican presidential nomination at the GOP convention.

A Trump senior campaign aide confirmed to Fox News on Monday morning that Lewandowski is no longer with the campaign.

It's unclear what specifically led to the decision. The departure of one of Trump's most senior and loyal advisers follows what was widely seen as a rough patch for the campaign.

Gee, Faithful 1, you know, that kind of sarcasm leads me to believe that you're not interested in an exchange of ideas, that you're ignoring historical facts, and only trying to score points in a partisan debate.

As opposed to all the partisan sarcasm that you've been spewing all along. By the way, I have yet to see a single historical fact that you've provided. There used to be a Wendy's hamburger commercial that asked, "Where's the beef?" So I ask you, "Where's the facts?"

I provided the historical fact that you were wrong about Reagan being the first president to crack down on organized crime.

Guns are fine it's the bullets that cause the problems. NY Albanians were playing my friends team in a tournament. Normally when I watch Albanians play I bring my gun to the game. I could not because I ran out of bullets.

You can bring a truck bomb if it ran out of gas.

911 some of the terrorist you know the ones that are muslem learning to fly here in the US. The people that taught them did not think it was strange that they never learned to land.

Let's ban knives you don't run out of ammunition for a knife. Just keep chopping away to some one stops you. Who is going to do it. The police when 7 minutes from you start stabing people. Get two to use a knife. In seven minutes they better ban knifes.

I think I want Hillary win. Just to show the liberals what kind of mistake they made that they can't take back.

Actually you prove my point even more since I never wrote that. You must be confusing me with someone else.

It's pointless to try and reason with posters like these three. They're beyond blind.

I don't know if he's getting you and I mixed up but, as usual, OakAsFan is wrong again. Nowhere did I say Reagan was the first president to crackdown on organized crime. I said his administration was a significant part of the renewed national effort against the mob in the 1980s.

OakAsFan, in all his ignorance, wasn't even aware of Reagan's efforts against organized crime. He was too busy being a partisan hack and trying to rewrite history by giving the Kennedys credit for everything that came aftwrward.

The guy's clueless on matters of both OC and politics. He can't even keep straight who he's talking to.

Clueless is the word.

Not sure whats wrong with my quote. Im also not sure what faith does accept a gay persons way of life....the vast majority threaten theyll be punished in this life or the next though. Catholic priests...male virgins who feel qualified to dictate to others when and how and with whom they should have sex? Whilst buggering young boys on their day off....double standards there no? We all know it happens on a huge scale, many times with the full knowledge of their superiors.

All religions will denounce this attack...all the time though, firmly believing and preaching to greater or lesser extents similar doctrines, double standards?....sounds to me an even worse fate that you'll burn in hell forever if your gay. Youre surely not a good person if you believe this bullshit? no youve not carried out a mass murder, but you are acquiencent of the "fact" that people are and will continue to burn in hell because they are gay...Id laugh if it wasnt so fucked up...

You keep the faith and Ill keep to the facts

Just heard Isis has 6 separate army's. Attacking everywhere the president and Hillary said they are losing ground.

Some one is wrong. Let's make Hillary president she never lies and neither does Obama.

Any body who trust priests or school teachers or baby sitters is out of their minds.

Trust no one not your employees either. You can give money to people. Just don't loan money to your friends or relatives an expect them to pay you back.

I went to my brother in laws house on Saturday. It was hot man. When he married his first wife and later divorced her. They had a baby boy little phil. He was the same age as my oldest son. He needed a special formular very expensive other wise he could grow up with a mental defect. His lawyer told him not to pay for it. So I paid for it because the boy needed it. One day big Phil comes over my house. I lived up a flight of stairs back then. It was a two family house I owned. I answered the door and through him down the flight of stairs because I had to pay for his son's medication.

I never talk to him I did not on Saturday. He is handy people call him to fix things wrong with their houses. He has wanted my business for years. Fuck him he was a prick then and he probably is a pick now. My kids like him and my wife likes his new wife. He has had 4 of them. So I went with her to her grand kids birthday party.

Point is don't trust anyone

The atheist groups that have persecuted gays are tiny groups of deluded idiots, you know that Ivy. Every belief system has it, its only human nature that some people take views to an extreme - yours in particular has the FLDS if I remember correctly (the FLDS make Charlie Manson look like a sexual prude) but we wouldn't say thats in any way a fair representation of what the vast majority believe would we?

However, the MAJOR difference is that nearly every religious faith, and the vast majority of their memberships, actually do seriously believe gays will burn in hell/suffer eternal torture etc etc simply because they are apparently guilty of a sin - and they pass this on to everyone they can at every opportunity. Some will then go on to massacre unfortunate "sinners".

The vast majority of atheists don't particularly obsess over the whereabouts of other peoples penis' or who they choose to spend their lives with or make up ridiculous theories about how they can be punished.

I believe that the officially atheist Soviet Union did persecute gays, so apparently they were interested the whereabouts of other people's penises. I wouldn't doubt if other officially atheist Communist nations did the same thing. It clearly seems that your claim to exempt atheism is a case of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

By the way, can you please point out when in the past 300 years...or 500 years a Christian or any other religious organization (aside from Islam) specifically massacred gays? Since you make that claim you should be able to point to at least a single example.

The soviet union is backward in all forms of human rights....to use it as a good example of the results of an atheist belief is ridiculous. Your also comparing a country it a particular period of time...Im talking about indoctrinated beliefs that have been around for thousands of years

Religious groups across the world persecute, torture and murder gay people every day..more to the point, are you seriously denying it happens? All in the name of religion...any number of christian fundamentalist groups in africa...even the KKK in the states.

I don't want to bang the drum for gay rights, it doesn't particularly rate way up my agenda, but, back to my original point, when I hear other religious people wailing about how terrible this orlando massacre was, I cant help but imagine them going home and picking up their harry potter religious book and reading about how their particular god delights in also torturing gay people...how do you square that? Its not good for a guy to shoot gay people, but its acceptable for your hairy bearded imaginary friend to torture them for eternity and for you to whisper how disgusting their way of life is?