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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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06/11/16 12:05 AM
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I love how we live in a time where it is acceptable for our Presidential candidates to take shots at each other on Twitter. Just a funny thing i saw tday  Also this one: 
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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alfa, trump is so confusing that the fact is that if by chance he is elected, NO ONE knows what he will do, if he gains the presidency,,,,,,,, all bets are off, we will be at his mercy.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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06/23/16 02:22 PM
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alfa, trump is so confusing that the fact is that if by chance he is elected, NO ONE knows what he will do, if he gains the presidency,,,,,,,, all bets are off, we will be at his mercy. But we do know what Hillary will do. Again, while neither is ideal, I'll take the unknown about Trump over that any day.
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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If you don't like GOP or Clinton vote Gary Johnson, he won't win but promote the idea that you are tired of thr two party system and a politician who does not represent you I watched Gary Johnson debate and in some interviews. He's no libertarian. He talks just like a Democrat. Yeah Gary Johnson fails to make a passionate case for libertarianism.. There seems to be no philosophical understanding or interest in libertarianism when he speaks. seems like a nice guy but super hard to get excited about his campaign.
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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I think Trump is slightly more liberal than what he seems...he could well just be pandering to his base trash vote because he knows the most of them are completely uneducated and will just move and wont care when he gets voted in anyway.
Its difficult to believe what he says - just one policy example, he says hes going to round up 11million illegals and send them back to Mexico? No one seems to care about the implications of this...impractical and unethical...your gardener gets a knock at the door in the middle of the night by the gestapo and sent back to mexico? What about his naturalised kids? And thisll be done by the hundreds of thousands? Hes going to devote how much law enforcement resources to this when there is REAL terrorism going on?
Youve got a difficult choice...Hillary isnt a polished speaker and tends to screech (and then comes across as crazy) but at least you know she'll be a typical, predicable politician and be reasonable centerist about foreign policy, she won't get the country into a real, real mess- she knows the game and at least seems capable of some comprimise. I still dont trust her in any way....every sentence has a focus group soundbite in it. On the other hand, Trump could be the most disasterous president ever...it seems he can get away with saying more and more crazy things and just get away with it - whilst its refreshing, im not convinced somebody who still seems to think hes in a reality tv show/wwf ring is what you need to run the country, and argueably, civilisation. He does quite obviously pretend to be religious though (which any candidate has to these days) and religious people love it, they know he pretends, but whilst the majority of religious people know it, it I suppose they like the acknowledgement - its sad thousands will still vote for him knowing that though. He could well become the first athiest president of America. He is just winging it on every level and it is obvious.
"trust me, its going to be amazing"
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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Vote for Jill Stein instead.
No doubt he may not be perfect, seems to be the best the party can present at this time. Getting more votes for Libertarian (which I lean towards with but don't 100% agree with) will help it in the future, since the we haven't seen many changes from either party that are usually promised. Maybe a little idealistic but perhaps if a Libertarian or Green party where elected it wouldn't be the same old stuff.
"he won't win but promote the idea that you are tired of thr two party system" was my main point, we should not have to pick between the lesser of two evils
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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fergie, from what I get on Trump's versus Hillary's foreign policy, I think Trump may actually be better. Trump talks tough on China, but I think that's one of his negotiating tools. Start out from a hard place and negotiate down to an agreeable one. Trump was also against the Iraq war, invading Syria and bombing Libya. Hillary was for all of those. Hillary also supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt while Trump supported the good guy, President Sisi. Trump is also friendlier to Russia, and I think Russia could be a good ally in fighting ISIS and Al Qaeda, plus better relations with Russia could ease tensions with China, Iran and even North Korea. Hillary, on the other hand, wants to amp up things with Russia. So if anyone will entangle us in an unwanted war, it will be Hillary. She's already done it.
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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Faithful, I think the real issue is that Trump flip flops and changes his mind so much, not in a political way, but in a naive stupid way..."I love the poor" etc Ive heard him say....it just seems like his head isn't really with it when it comes to political machines. There is slow, gradual processes of changing that, but he doesn't seem to offer much in the way of realistic goals, he's just riding a wave of what seems like an inevitable backlash how things have been going...I dislike both of them, Clinton/Trump and I hate the choice you guys have to make.
A billionaire isn't necessarily qualified to run an economy.
Ive got to say, if it were me voting, Id probably still vote Trump....just to rock the establishment. I hate Clinton and the "dynasty" creation shit...the Kennedy's deserved that moniker, but now the fucking Kardashians apparently do as well...
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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Faithful, I think the real issue is that Trump flip flops and changes his mind so much, not in a political way, but in a naive stupid way..."I love the poor" etc Ive heard him say....it just seems like his head isn't really with it when it comes to political machines. There is slow, gradual processes of changing that, but he doesn't seem to offer much in the way of realistic goals, he's just riding a wave of what seems like an inevitable backlash how things have been going...I dislike both of them, Clinton/Trump and I hate the choice you guys have to make.
A billionaire isn't necessarily qualified to run an economy.
Ive got to say, if it were me voting, Id probably still vote Trump....just to rock the establishment. I hate Clinton and the "dynasty" creation shit...the Kennedy's deserved that moniker, but now the fucking Kardashians apparently do as well... Fergie, we agree a second time! A new record! LOL
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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instead of getting advice from top republicans on how to beat Hillary, trump goes to Scotland promoting his new golf course,
shows you his mind set. if hes elected what assurance do
the people have that he even cares about the country over his business interests....... if something doesn't go his way, what does he do, declare bankruptcy and go home, after all that's his M,O,
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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