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Re: News
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They can stop saying that the police were there in the first place to defend the protesters. That is a joke. Law enforcement in the U.S. is a right wing institution, and they detest all left leaning groups, and their right to protest. The Dallas PD left the "wanted" photo of Mark Hughes (who was wrongfully identified as a suspect) on their twitter account all day today, despite knowing he wasn't the suspect. He received thousands of death threats, according to his lawyer. Payback has already begun. The police want all other parties to take a step back and reconsider their rhetoric, while they have no such intentions of doing the same. Then you have the retired Florida congressman today saying that "This is war", and for the president to "watch out". Threatening a sitting president is illegal no matter who you are, but when it's done by a former congressman, it could even be considered an act of treason. The police haven't even questioned him yet.
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Re: News
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07/09/16 02:03 AM
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They can stop saying that the police were there in the first place to defend the protesters. That is a joke. Law enforcement in the U.S. is a right wing institution, and they detest all left leaning groups, and their right to protest. The Dallas PD left the "wanted" photo of Mark Hughes (who was wrongfully identified as a suspect) on their twitter account all day today, despite knowing he wasn't the suspect. He received thousands of death threats, according to his lawyer. Payback has already begun. The police want all other parties to take a step back and reconsider their rhetoric, while they have no such intentions of doing the same. Then you have the retired Florida congressman today saying that "This is war", and for the president to "watch out". Threatening a sitting president is illegal no matter who you are, but when it's done by a former congressman, it could even be considered an act of treason. The police haven't even questioned him yet. I realize the obvious continually escapes you but the cops were there to keep order. Look what's going on in Atlanta right now. The BLM protest there has shutdown a major highway. And they've done this several times before in various cities. The fact that you see police as a "right wing institution" just shows how insufferably extreme left and radical you are. Left leaning groups are rightly detested. It's an unholy alliance of naive college students in their 20s who think they have the answers to the world's problems, anarchists who want to force their own radical revolution based on their warped world view, select minority groups who never miss a chance to exploit racial tensions (most of which they cause themselves), and of course the deviant LGBTQ (and whatever other letter you want to add) and feminist groups. As for Hughes, considering the very reason for the protests and the tense atmosphere, one really has to question the wisdom of him walking around in public with a rifle over his shoulder. If he had a legal concealed gun, ok, but he shouldn't have been surprised that he caused a whole lot of confusion. Since yesterday, a lot of people (including a number of black law enforcement) guys have called out Obama for his role in only worsening racial tensions. The guy hasn't helped. And I don't know what you mean by "payback has already begun" but it's not surprising you immediately go into the BS liberal narrative with no mention of the pyscho who killed 5 innocent cops and wounded several others, including a civilian. Having been pegged on this board as an unrepentant liberal hack, you seem to have chosen to embrace that and doubled down on your left wing lunacy. You're quickly becoming a parody of yourself.
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Re: News
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07/09/16 02:03 AM
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OakAsFan clearly hates cops. As for American LE being "right wing" (how come their not just "right leaning"? But I digress), even the Far Left USSR had a police force and they didn't like protesters either. Maybe they were just a bunch of capitalist pigs hiding in plain sight? The Dallas PD was probably a little busy, you know, with having 5 dead cops and 7 injured and all it tends to delay things. Maybe if you write them a letter they'll send you an apology for not meeting your deadline. BTW, they did defend protesters. http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img/pho...e9b6936b1eddfe5The Florida ex-congressman who is really an ex-Illinois congressman, Joe Walsh, shouldn't have made those threats. I'll bet he gets a visit from the Secret Service. Unfortunately, he has a long history of being an idiot. The tweet has been deleted and he kinda/sorta apologized for it while claiming it was misinterpreted. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...0708-story.html But I guess if people are going to accept that BLM marchers yelling "Pigs in a Blanket, Fry 'em like Bacon," didn't really mean killing cops and its leaders claim was misinterpreted, then we can probably accept Walsh's pseudo-apology. Or we can say they meant what they said and condemn them both. Anyway, another day, another clearing up a post full of half-truths.
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Re: News
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07/09/16 02:56 AM
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I read Lupe Fiasco twitter and agreed with his thoughts on the BLM lack of critical thinking. I personal agree to the main theme of the movement but disagree with much of the rallies. I think plenty of those families would like less publicity and more clarity. One of the problems is that BLM is a Far Left movement based on the Black Panthers and other Black nationalist groups, and draws its inspiration from Assata Shakur, so it isn't mainstream. That means that it gets its tactics from Communist and agitprop movements that are confrontational and divisive. When they lay down on the freeway it just pisses people off, including Black people who are trying to get to their jobs. When they interrupt politicians (like Bernie Sanders) it turns the crowd against them. OR marching into university libraries where people are studying so they can scream at White students. Then they demean their White allies and preach segregation. Talk about driving the Civil Rights Movement back fifty years. If they stuck with the message of being against police brutality and made sure they were documented and confirmed cases of brutality (as opposed to taking a video out of context), explain how Black people experience discrimination today, and do peaceful non-in-your-face marches, then they'd have more support.
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Re: News
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07/09/16 11:56 AM
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Well, I'm in Sacramento, where almost everyone works for the state. And, they work in offices. Cubicles, really. And, there's certainly cameras. Cries to remove the cameras, similar to those of police who don't want body cams, would garner a loud chuckle from both the supervisors and the union reps. It's 2016 for everyone except cops who still think they should be given the same freedom as Buford T. Justice. As they say, if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
Just think, as recently as the 1990s, there were hardly any cameras anywhere in public. Today there's either a camera or google is snapping photos just about everywhere. You only have privacy inside of your home, with the curtains closed, your modem unplugged and your phone on airplane mode. 1984 has arrived, a couple of decades late. And, it aint Obama. He's being watched too.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: News
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07/09/16 12:03 PM
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I read Lupe Fiasco twitter and agreed with his thoughts on the BLM lack of critical thinking. I personal agree to the main theme of the movement but disagree with much of the rallies. I think plenty of those families would like less publicity and more clarity. One of the problems is that BLM is a Far Left movement based on the Black Panthers and other Black nationalist groups, and draws its inspiration from Assata Shakur, so it isn't mainstream. That means that it gets its tactics from Communist and agitprop movements that are confrontational and divisive. When they lay down on the freeway it just pisses people off, including Black people who are trying to get to their jobs. When they interrupt politicians (like Bernie Sanders) it turns the crowd against them. OR marching into university libraries where people are studying so they can scream at White students. Then they demean their White allies and preach segregation. Talk about driving the Civil Rights Movement back fifty years. If they stuck with the message of being against police brutality and made sure they were documented and confirmed cases of brutality (as opposed to taking a video out of context), explain how Black people experience discrimination today, and do peaceful non-in-your-face marches, then they'd have more support. So, black protesters should take pointers from you, a white person, on how to conduct their protests. That's hilarious.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: News
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07/09/16 12:44 PM
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http://news10.com/2016/07/07/local-black...-men-by-police/Attended this thing yesterday not for support but just to check it out When they lay down on the freeway it just pisses people off, including Black people who are trying to get to their jobs. When they interrupt politicians (like Bernie Sanders) it turns the crowd against them. OR marching into university libraries where people are studying so they can scream at White students. Then they demean their White allies and preach segregation. Talk about driving the Civil Rights Movement back fifty years.
If they stuck with the message of being against police brutality and made sure they were documented and confirmed cases of brutality (as opposed to taking a video out of context), explain how Black people experience discrimination today, and do peaceful non-in-your-face marches, then they'd have more support.
100% right good post I can't stand the left because of this though I support people never groups or "isms." BLM, LBGTQ, feminist are all the same, most of the talking points can't be backed by facts and all they do is scream and yell when confronted with them. Mostly say things like "racist sexist transphob homophob patriarchy, misogony, white privilege, male privilege, cis gender it is all very tiresome You have to wonder about someone who is paid by the public, yet doesn't want the public to monitor their work and/or conduct. That is a concerning, I think police need to realize they are public servants, they are not always right and they are not above the people. My aunt is a police officer, she supports body cams but in conversation about her job I feel that she and her colleagues are a little biased against blacks but also have no problem with violating anyone's rights and if I call her on that (I try to avoid talking racial issues in the family to keep the peace) she tells me I am wrong and that I hate cops. Last week I drove through a DWI checkpoint, during my stop I refused to give my ID because I hadn't been drinking (I don't drink when I go out only club soda) long story short I was detained. When I told her this she told me that by driving down a road is enough probable cause for me to be stopped and search (cop told me he could smell weed, which is impossible because I haven't done that in 6 or 7 years) I said that is wrong and tried to explain why she said Okay, after the shooting in Dallas she sent me a text saying you must be happy 5 cops are dead. I didn't respond but that is consistent with police mentality if you are critical of their actions and you must be anti police. In regards to shootings nobody deserves to be killed by the State (police) but like everything it has to do with decisions you make during encounters. So, black protesters should take pointers from you, a white person, on how to conduct their protests. That's hilarious.
Right because you can only speak about your race and your sex and having an opinion about something should be 100% disregarded. I am guessing you are not Italian so you should never talk or have an opinion about LCN
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Re: News
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07/09/16 12:50 PM
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I read Lupe Fiasco twitter and agreed with his thoughts on the BLM lack of critical thinking. I personal agree to the main theme of the movement but disagree with much of the rallies. I think plenty of those families would like less publicity and more clarity. One of the problems is that BLM is a Far Left movement based on the Black Panthers and other Black nationalist groups, and draws its inspiration from Assata Shakur, so it isn't mainstream. That means that it gets its tactics from Communist and agitprop movements that are confrontational and divisive. When they lay down on the freeway it just pisses people off, including Black people who are trying to get to their jobs. When they interrupt politicians (like Bernie Sanders) it turns the crowd against them. OR marching into university libraries where people are studying so they can scream at White students. Then they demean their White allies and preach segregation. Talk about driving the Civil Rights Movement back fifty years. If they stuck with the message of being against police brutality and made sure they were documented and confirmed cases of brutality (as opposed to taking a video out of context), explain how Black people experience discrimination today, and do peaceful non-in-your-face marches, then they'd have more support. black lives matters is about the police shooting innocent unarmed black people it has nothing to do with the black panther party or black nationalism how can a video of unarmed men being murdered on film be taken out of context?
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Re: News
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07/09/16 02:05 PM
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Why would you have to differentiate "honest" blacks from blacks in general? Do you believe that most black people aren't honest? I will tell you what I told you before I believe your a kid. Possibly still in college and have no life experience to speak off. Your parents are devorced and are both liberals. I think you still live at home not on your own. I have more dealing with black people then you will probably ever have. Most black people and white people are about the same. They just hardly ever deal with each other. Those with kids are like whites with kids they want them to have a better life then we had there is no difference in that regard. Those in kids youth gangs don't know how to make money from it. They need someone to show them how.
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Re: News
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07/09/16 03:48 PM
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Perhaps some of you listen to a variety of radio talk shows. If you do, you may listen to Michael Savage who is about as right-wing as you can get. Along with Laura Ingram (and in contrast with Mark Levin and Michael Medved), he is a Donald Trump supporter. However, get this:
On his Thursday afternoon show he stated that the two men recently killed by police in Baton Rouge and Minnesota were executed by police. Michael Savage is a bay area guy and he once was a liberal. Evidently his back story is that some doctor in SF plagiarized something he wrote, and he's been on his right wing bent ever since. I've noticed that inside a lot of these extreme right wingers is a liberal that feels abandoned. It ties into the race thing, too. Lack of jobs, Mexicans taking the jobs, etc. They're crying for help, and their grief and fears have been manipulated by the Republican party.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: News
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07/09/16 05:57 PM
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Perhaps some of you listen to a variety of radio talk shows. If you do, you may listen to Michael Savage who is about as right-wing as you can get. Along with Laura Ingram (and in contrast with Mark Levin and Michael Medved), he is a Donald Trump supporter. However, get this:
On his Thursday afternoon show he stated that the two men recently killed by police in Baton Rouge and Minnesota were executed by police. Michael Savage is a bay area guy and he once was a liberal. Evidently his back story is that some doctor in SF plagiarized something he wrote, and he's been on his right wing bent ever since. I've noticed that inside a lot of these extreme right wingers is a liberal that feels abandoned. It ties into the race thing, too. Lack of jobs, Mexicans taking the jobs, etc. They're crying for help, and their grief and fears have been manipulated by the Republican party. I'm starting to think Footreads is right about you being a kid. Some of the absurd things you say, like above, typically come from people under 30. At least you'd have an excuse. Anyway, I've listened to just about every conservative talk radio show host over the years. The more mainstream ones are are like Medved, who's pretty balanced and analytical. Savage is sort of off on his own island and often is critical of other talk show hosts. Much of what he goes on is emotion. The thing about most of them is they won't hesitate to condemn those officers if those shootings are found to be bad. Apologizing to those cops who are later found justified and absolved of wrongdoing is something I have yet to see from their black/liberal critics. The best conservative host is Dennis Prager. The guy is a genius and is the best at exposing and absolutely annihilating liberals and their warped view of just about everything in this world.
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