Can't stand that instigator Al Sharpton, what a scumbag of a man..

Terrible crime but Queens and NYC is FAR less violent then it was years ago unless you are talking about the 1950s or so

This isn't directed at anyone but I never really understood when people say this never would of happened years ago. It probably just has to do with memory but most neighborhoods in the 80s and into the mid 90s was literally night and day from a violent. crime perspective comparaed to today.

I hate Guiliani but he really did an outstanding job with crime that did pave the wave for outstanding real estate returns for some

You wouldn't say the guys who chased Michael Griffith into moving traffic while yelling racial slurs at him weren't instigators as well?

i doubt it was some random derelect lurking in the bushes there. my guess , that id bet on, was it was someone she knew. or someone who knew her at least. she was a pretty popular girl in real life and online... thousands of instagram followers. couldnt be too far out of the realm that it was someone who knew her and was stalking her. makes more sense than a psycho hiding out in the woods in the most residential, least outsider friendly (to this day) neighborhood in queens

What happened was horrible, but they were in a fight and things like that can happen. These guys were no saints either..

The backgrounds of the victims are not relevant. They were accosted and eventually assaulted, and one of them eventually killed, because they were black. That's all that matters in regards to this incident alone. Al Sharpton, or anyone, bringing attention to the matter is not a moral equivalent to the assault and killing. His right to free speech is protected by the constitution. The bigoted and violent actions by the scumbags in Howard Beach were not.

This story is about a young girl who was Viciously attacked,Killed and Raped.I couldn't care less about sharpton, griffith or the other 2..(that died from aids,needle sharing)or the other guy who was charged with 16 years for shooting his brother.Real upstanding citizens...The attack on her, probably wouldn't have happened years ago..That's a fact. The neighborhood is not the same as it was. Car theft was the only real problem years ago.

Absolutely nothing is wrong with me! This girl was a friggin moron for not listening to her father and going on a run ALONE on a trail in a desolate area. Sure, we females should be able to feel safe but we need to be overly cautious when we are ALONE. You cannot let your guard down for one second.

This girl had no chance, no chance. She put herself into that situation and was killed because of her own stupidity!!!!!

Unfortunately that can be said about a lot of neighborhoods in NY. I grew up in the Wakefield section of the Bronx and now when I go back I see it has become a total shit hole. it's just the world we are living in. My heart goes out to this girl's family. A total tragedy. You have to be so careful everywhere you go these days there are a lot of people looking to do harm. I don't think anyone could have prevented this. The release of mental patients from psychiatric Centers, the Homeless, the criminals with extensive arrest records and your ordinary run of the mill pervert are out there preying on the unsuspecting.

I bet that perp knew her, but she didn't know him.
Like you said she had thousands of followers on Instagram and almost all of the pics I saw of her were of her in full make-up, sexy clothes or tight work out clothes for every stranger out there to see.
I'm not saying it's wrong what she did, but it can attract some obsessive followers, online and in real life..

I keep reading poor girl on this thread. Why do you feel so sorry for girls like her? Don't tell me that you're all that sheltered!! This girl should have listened to her father. He knew that she would not be safe on the trail without him; he saw how men looked at her. You can't go running ALONE on a deserted trail in this day and age. The girls of today are in La La Land. I read that she was texting a friend and then stopped. You can't text, you can't look at ur phone, how ridiculous. As a female, you need your eyes and ears open to be completely alert of your surroundings. You need pepper spray, a knife, a life alert around your friggin neck. This female was a complete idiot!!! This would not have happened when Gotti was around, not because of him but because of the mentality of the people back in those days. The females knew better than to DISOBEY their fathers' warnings and were much more street smart than the females of today. I feel sorry for her father!! Poor man, looks like he did everything right but just couldn't knock any sense into his clueless daughter!! And I just have a feeling the guy who killed her was probably someone she knew casually. At first I thought it may have been her ex boyfriend but now I'm not so sure. Dumb girl got herself killed.

I wasn't trying to make some all encompassing statement on crime . I was just saying people sometimes forget how many murders went down in NYC back in the day.

There are no doubt still plenty of disaster areas in the city but I think by and large NYC is less violent than the 90s.

Some men cannot help themselves and will attack

We, women need to make smart decisions and can never let our guard down. Look up or ask someone who lives in that neighborhood and ask them if they would let their sister or daughter run ALONE on that trail. And they'll tell you It is not safe.

Definitely a very unsettling reality, part of the reason why I haven't had and probably never have kids

Vetrano broke up with her boyfriend just two days before her death in a desolate stretch of Spring Creek Park, only a short distance from her Howard Beach home.

The high-ranking source said the spurned lover was quickly ruled out as a suspect after providing an alibi. “He thought their relationship was more than casual, but she disagreed,” the source said.

Well, if you have boys you could always, you know, teach them not to be rapists and murderers

Wait that's all it takes? All of our problems would be solved if only the American people chastised rapist and murderers. Still I will settle for no children