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Re: News
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History repeats itself. I put up a post recently asking people about the impact of the Immigration Act of 1924 on organized crime. The "villains" were different then, but what Trump is proposing is along the lines of the rationale for the past laws. *and before anybody says it, there were "terrorist attacks" pinned to members of the groups that were considered "undesirable" back then. Trump only knows one speed, but if toned down the sideshow carnival stuff, there is a bit of truth to some of what he is proposing, but why start using logic now? His advisers may have finally gotten through to him. Maybe Roger Ailes is making a difference. Maybe desperation is making him change his style. Maybe someone slapped him upside the head. Any of the above.
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John McLaughlin, Pioneering Pundit, Dies at 89 For 34 years, John McLaughlin never missed a taping of his Sunday morning political panel show, The McLaughlin Group. His streak came to an end on Sunday, when he felt too ill to come into the studio. On Tuesday morning, McLaughlin died at the age of 89. After years working as a Jesuit priest and Nixon speechwriter, McLaughlin became a pioneering pundit-provocateur, creating his famously combative program in 1982. The McLaughlin Group became a staple in many American living rooms — particularly those occupied by nerdy children and their dads. In 1984, McLaughlin likened his show’s mission to that of a diamond cutter. “If he hits it at precisely the right angle, with precisely the right percussion or beat or thrust, that can explode into a brilliant illumination, and that is what we try to provide on the program.” http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/john-mclaughlin-pioneering-pundit-dies-at-89.html
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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The prisoners there are actually treated well, Held without any due process or release date? Yeah. The fox guarding the hen house says the hens are treated well, too.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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08/17/16 12:26 AM
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The prisoners there are actually treated well, Held without any due process or release date? Yeah. The fox guarding the hen house says the hens are treated well, too. Nice to know that you consider the United States a fox and members of Al Qaeda and the Islamic State "hens." It explains a lot. Due process is a constitutional right given to citizens of nationals that agree to the Geneva Conventions. Members of Al Qaeda and Islamic State do not hold to the Geneva Conventions so have all the rights given to enemy combatants. And in general, prisoners of war are held confined for the duration of the war. Last time I checked, Al Qaeda and the Islamic State are still at war against the USA. If any of them were tried before military tribunals, would you even know about them? They could have all been given life sentences by the military as far as anyone knows. The problem is that you don't know anymore than what your Democratic talking points tell you.
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I use due process in a universal sense, not in a constitutional sense. Substitute the term "due process" with whatever you wish when referring to the apprehension and detention of people while not having demonstrated that they're a threat to anybody. There's many words that could be used to describe the treatment of such prisoners. "Well" would not be one of them. If "due process" is universal, then please show me the due process that exists in North Korea, Islamic State, Sudan, China, Laos, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. After all, if it's universal they must have it too, right?
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Aren't we 'better' than the countries on that list?
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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The fact that there are other countries that don't offer any sort of due process to prisoners doesn't make it right. That's moving the goal posts and irrelevant to what I asked. You asserted "due process" is universal and failed to back up your claim.
Aren't we 'better' than the countries on that list?
If we're "better," the quality of being better suggests that due process rights are NOT universal. If they were universal then we would be equal to everyone else in this regard.
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08/18/16 10:26 PM
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His old show had fantastic ratings. He left to start his own tv network he was always big on history. Just came out with a new book on history.
The only thing bad about beck was he loves Cruz.
On black history month you see very few of these guys in it.
Never remember watching his show I could have but I was much more liberal when I was younger I remember watching O'Reilley for a while now, my dad always watched him a lot. He currently has #2 on NY Times nonfiction It is sad you never hear about these great historical figures
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Will do. Since I'm only fluent in the English language, you won't mind if you I use google's translator...
English - Due process.
Spanish - Debido al proceso
French - une procédure régulière
Swahili - mchakato kutokana I'm not sure you are fluent in English since we were discussing the existence of the concept of due process, not the mere words. And you haven't written anything to show that the American concept of due process exists universally. Tal vez estas demasiado terco para admitir la verdad, y la verdad es que no sabes lo que estas hablando. If you don't know what that means I'm sure you can Google translate it.
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effect of the decision on stock prices of private prison corporations http://www.marketwatch.com/story/private...-use-2016-08-188/18/16 Corrections Corp. of America CXW, +8.59% shares dropped 35% to close at $17.57, after touching an intraday low of $13.04, on volume of nearly 40 million shares, compared with an average daily volume of 810,000 shares over the past 52 weeks. It was the lowest close for the stock since July 31, 2009, when it finished at $17.26, according to FactSet. GEO Group Inc. GEO, +21.37% shares fell 40% to close at $19.51, after touching an intraday low of $16.26, on volume of more than 25 million shares, compared with an average daily volume of 511,000 shares over the past 52 weeks. It was the stock’s lowest close since April 10, 2012, when it finished at $19.50. In after-hours activity Thursday, Corrections shares were up 6% at $18.64, and GEO shares advanced 4.8% to $20.33.
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effect of the decision on stock prices of private prison corporations http://www.marketwatch.com/story/private...-use-2016-08-188/18/16 Corrections Corp. of America CXW, +8.59% shares dropped 35% to close at $17.57, after touching an intraday low of $13.04, on volume of nearly 40 million shares, compared with an average daily volume of 810,000 shares over the past 52 weeks. It was the lowest close for the stock since July 31, 2009, when it finished at $17.26, according to FactSet. GEO Group Inc. GEO, +21.37% shares fell 40% to close at $19.51, after touching an intraday low of $16.26, on volume of more than 25 million shares, compared with an average daily volume of 511,000 shares over the past 52 weeks. It was the stock’s lowest close since April 10, 2012, when it finished at $19.50. In after-hours activity Thursday, Corrections shares were up 6% at $18.64, and GEO shares advanced 4.8% to $20.33. It will be interesting to see the effects of this over the next few months, I could be wrong but I believe we are at an all time high currently wonder if/how this will cause a drop
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Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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