Just pointing out a resemblance, that's all. That word "collapse" came up a lot when Obama took office. He's going to collapse this..He's going to collapse that...etc. He didn't collapse anything. The country was in a serious recession when he took office. It's much better now.

Yeah, they did. Since you asked. If you don't want to be mistaken for a card carrying, Obama hating Republican, you can at least try to sound different than them when criticizing him. Just a suggestion.

Maybe you're just such a Democratic shill that you think any criticism of Obama and the Democrats means that the critic is a Republican. It's called GOP Derangement Syndrome, and you've got it bad. You parrot DNC talking points to the letter and back them up with...well, usually nothing. Sometimes when confronted instead of admitting your error you just change the subject. A couple weeks ago Helenwheels challenged me on something that I could very well be wrong about. I haven't followed up on it yet, but I will, and if I'm wrong I will gladly say so. I'm more interested in the truth than just asserting that I'm right.

It's also funny that the two people who most often point out your faulty assertions are NOT Republicans. I don't know about SoCalGangs, but I've never belonged to any party and have voted for people on both sides of the aisle, as well as third party. I was even considering volunteering for Democrat Loretta Sanchez, and I may still do so. The thing is for me, I'm not beholden to any party.

Maybe you're just such a Democratic shill that you think any criticism of Obama and the Democrats means that the critic is a Republican. It's called GOP Derangement Syndrome, and you've got it bad. You parrot DNC talking points to the letter and back them up with...well, usually nothing. Sometimes when confronted instead of admitting your error you just change the subject. A couple weeks ago Helenwheels challenged me on something that I could very well be wrong about. I haven't followed up on it yet, but I will, and if I'm wrong I will gladly say so. I'm more interested in the truth than just asserting that I'm right.

It's also funny that the two people who most often point out your faulty assertions are NOT Republicans. I don't know about SoCalGangs, but I've never belonged to any party and have voted for people on both sides of the aisle, as well as third party. I was even considering volunteering for Democrat Loretta Sanchez, and I may still do so. The thing is for me, I'm not beholden to any party.

You gave reasons for a prediction that is yet to come to fruition. It's like if I said that a flying saucer is going to land in a field tomorrow. Oh, and here's the reasons...then I go on to give concise reasons. If the prediction hasn't yet come true, then the reasons are not yet applicable to anything. Obamacare is fine. When it first went into effect there was one scare story after another. The long term cost projections are now $ trillions lower than they were when it was implemented. The "disaster" didn't happen. the "collapse" didn't happen. They were Republican lies.

You must have me confused with someone else. I've made no "errors" since posting here.

Excuse me while I vomit in my mouth from too much ROFL. "I've made no 'errors' since posting here." Right, like your bogus claim that due process is universal and compounded by the false assertion that you've made no errors since you've been posting here. So you're either a liar or just not bright enough to realize your errors. You could also just be a troll who makes hit and run comments to provoke other posters. You've already admitted to trolling Ivy.

Excuse me while I vomit in my mouth from too much ROFL. "I've made no 'errors' since posting here." Right, like your bogus claim that due process is universal and compounded by the false assertion that you've made no errors since you've been posting here. So you're either a liar or just not bright enough to realize your errors. You could also just be a troll who makes hit and run comments to provoke other posters. You've already admitted to trolling Ivy.

lol. "reality". There's another term.

The "reality" is, Obamacare is going to explode the whole universe and send us all flying into outer space. - average Republican, 2010.

Didn't happen.

Did you see the recent cost projections through 2020? Trillions lower than what was anticipated in 2010. Scare tactics, anyone? The "reality" is that things are never as bad as Republicans say they are. It's a rule of thumb.

republican propaganda, they are good at that,
wmds in Iraq, billions of dollars must go to wall street
or we will collapse.....

Exactly, Binnie.

Democrats have the better ideas and most people know it. The only way their opposition can bring them down is by turning their ideas into scorched earth fear scenarios. They're comical, really. It would be funny if their alternative to Democratic leadership wasn't so disastrous.

While it's possible he could be a troll, Oak just may be as clueless as he seems. Either way, I've come to the conclusion he's no more worth responding to than cookcounty. At least cook is a barely literate inner-city halfwit who probably didn't pass the eighth grade. Not sure what Oak's excuse is.

ivy...
why is it you are so insulting to everyone? you cant carry on an intelligent conversation without attacking your adversary.

can't you respond to someone without trying to take away their dignty. you are indeed the most offensive poster on this site, doesn't it matter to you what other people think of you.

Going back to the original topic of the thread, Obama supposedly being polarizing...

His approval rating is over 50%. Bush's at this time was around 30%.

Obama's not polarizing. He just has a political opposition that's in the minority.

ive got a hunch that in a few years people will want Obama back.

the next president will no doubt put troops on the ground in the middle east, and that added to the mess that's already there could involve us for decades to come, spending billions, while inflation skyrockets out of control,

Obama is taking a lot of heat for not sending troops to Syria,
but, I think hes right, and in a few years from now so will everyone else. his popularity will increase year, by year.

Not to mention killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki a boy of 16 and an American Citizen

Obama already put troops down in the ME. He's sent over 5000 troops to Iraq. Obama and Hillary have bombed Syria and paid hundreds of millions of dollars to local fighters to battle against Assad. Most of those local fighters ended up running away and leaving US taxpayer funded vehicles, equipment and arms behind for ISIS to pick up. Still think he's right? And Hillary will probably expand the war against Assad. After all, she not only supported the Iraq war, but supported bombing Libya and Syria.