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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/20/16 04:46 PM
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You implied those things. You criticized "social justice", which is, by definition "justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society". You're doing the very same thing you accuse others of doing. When we respond to the logical implications of what you write, you're usual response is, "I never wrote that" (or some variation). Except in Dude's case you really are reading in things that he not only never wrote, but never implied.
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Re: News
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09/20/16 06:36 PM
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Tulsa Police Say Man Had No Gun; Video Shows He Had Hands UpAn unarmed black man killed by a white Oklahoma officer who was responding to a stalled vehicle can be seen in police video walking away from officers and toward his SUV with his hands up before he approaches the driver's side door, where he drops to the ground after being shocked with a stun gun then fatally shot. In Tulsa police helicopter footage that was among several clips released Monday showing the shooting of 40-year-old Terence Crutcher and its aftermath, a man in the helicopter that arrives above the scene as Crutcher walks to the vehicle can be heard saying "time for a Taser." He then says: "That looks like a bad dude, too. Probably on something." Police Chief Chuck Jordan announced before the video and audio recordings' release that Crutcher had no weapon on him or in his SUV when he was shot Friday. It's not clear from the footage what led Betty Shelby, the officer who fired the fatal shot, to draw her gun or what orders officers might have given Crutcher. Local and federal investigations are underway to determine whether criminal charges are warranted in the shooting or if Crutcher's civil rights were violated. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/tulsa-police-release-dashcam-video-fatal-shooting-42192589 This video gives a statement by the Tulsa police chief followed by a helicopter view of the incident, then a statement by Terence Crutcher's sister. Very sad and disturbing. I can't come up with a reason why Officer Betty Shelby would shoot and kill an unarmed man down on the ground following a Taser shot. Did she intend to grab her Taser and pull out her gun by mistake? From other reports it appears that none of the ground officers had body cams, so we won't get to see what happened from their perspective. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/...ation/90716058/This has a second POV from an approaching police car: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dist...ar-sy-juno-gen4
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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/21/16 02:52 AM
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I can't come up with a reason why Officer Betty Shelby would shoot and kill an unarmed man down on the ground following a Taser shot. I could. Im sure you could. Fact is police kill around 45 percent white people per yer, around 22 percent black. So technically police kill twice as many white per year. Of course the media doesn't want to report that because they are the main proponent's of racism. They stir it up to boost headlines and the sheeple that believe are brainwashed and follow them like good little sheeple and don't think for themselves. Don't believe that? Go try to speak your mind in Syria, Somalia, Yemen. Say one thing against their way of thinking they won't care to shoot you unarmed, and if the media reports it they will kill the media, their family and anyone that speaks out against it. Fact. America has gotten to be too feminized. A 180 degree turn from the WW2 era America that was strong and United.
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Re: News
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09/21/16 04:48 AM
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I can't come up with a reason why Officer Betty Shelby would shoot and kill an unarmed man down on the ground following a Taser shot. I could. Im sure you could. Fact is police kill around 45 percent white people per yer, around 22 percent black. So technically police kill twice as many white per year. Of course the media doesn't want to report that because they are the main proponent's of racism. They stir it up to boost headlines and the sheeple that believe are brainwashed and follow them like good little sheeple and don't think for themselves. Don't believe that? Go try to speak your mind in Syria, Somalia, Yemen. Say one thing against their way of thinking they won't care to shoot you unarmed, and if the media reports it they will kill the media, their family and anyone that speaks out against it. Fact. America has gotten to be too feminized. A 180 degree turn from the WW2 era America that was strong and United. I'm aware of the stats, but they are irrelevant to the facts of individual cases. Each case is separate and has to be judged on its own merits. To me, this one didn't cut it.
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Re: News
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09/21/16 05:36 AM
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You could say if a someone is down from a taser then is shot that it doesn't make sense. But I could say not all things make sense concerning the police especially if they are scared. My ex son in law was a fucking cop then an air traffic controller and then a cop again. I was afraid of bullets when he was a cop. Then afraid of getting hit by a plane when he was a controller and then bullets again I think the worse thing that ever happened was when Police went from to the revolver to the semi automatic that could fire a lot of rounds before they have to reload. Especially dangerous when you have a lot of cops together. They stop aiming and hide behind a wall and they just keep firing to they all run out of bullets. If an innocent person happens to walk into that line of Fire goodbye. See you in the next life. The funny thing about Oak is nothing ever happened to him for him to hate cops? Maybe a cop abused his mommy and daddy  I hope so they deserved it for not aborting him when they had the chance.
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Re: News
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09/21/16 02:08 PM
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You could say if a someone is down from a taser then is shot that it doesn't make sense. But I could say not all things make sense concerning the police especially if they are scared. My ex son in law was a fucking cop then an air traffic controller and then a cop again. I was afraid of bullets when he was a cop. Then afraid of getting hit by a plane when he was a controller and then bullets again I think the worse thing that ever happened was when Police went from to the revolver to the semi automatic that could fire a lot of rounds before they have to reload. Especially dangerous when you have a lot of cops together. They stop aiming and hide behind a wall and they just keep firing to they all run out of bullets. If an innocent person happens to walk into that line of Fire goodbye. See you in the next life. The funny thing about Oak is nothing ever happened to him for him to hate cops? Maybe a cop abused his mommy and daddy  I hope so they deserved it for not aborting him when they had the chance. I'm guessing nothing beyond a speeding ticket has happened to Oaks. But he's a liberal hack who has to go with the liberal narrative. And that's always assuming the worst of police and making them out to be the problem, while routinely defending and making excuses for thugs and criminals, especially minority ones.
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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/21/16 04:51 PM
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Dude was referring to "social justice", and that is a direct quote. BLM being included in his definition of social justice is my interpretation of his argument, and it hasn't changed. You interpret it however you like. I never made reference to BLM nor did I attempt to define what social justice you did that. I postee on how you can how receive a degree In it and how I think it is a waste to get a degree in it. Where did I even attempt to define social justice? I looked back at this thread and didn't see it if you could please quote me so I can see what you are referencing.
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/21/16 05:49 PM
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The funny thing about Oak is nothing ever happened to him for him to hate cops? First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Niemöller quote impressed he is a interesting guy alot of people have different opinions on him and his real motives lol your comparing the police in the US to the Nazis i know the police in the US are no saints and have some serious problems i even know that as a foreigner with all the shootings lately. I dont get why some of the police in the US drive around like they are in Iraq with the amount of weapons they have on them then again everyone has guns in the US guess they need the protection. There is some countries where the police literally just kill people for no reason like in the Philippians out there loads of the police and army are major drug traffickers of course some people (including people on this site) think it is ok for them to round up known drug dealers and shoot them. Now all the drug traffickers are getting killed who is dealing the drugs? its the police.
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Sorry for the confusion
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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/21/16 08:59 PM
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Fair enough, Dude. If you really don't want me to believe you were referring to BLM, then I won't. I don't care what you believe some people live in reality some don't. This: Dude was criticizing the "emotion driven fact neglecting craziness" among BLM. I don't see why we're only sample sizing BLM Never happened that is in your head. I am not making my assessment solely on your beloved BLM. I don't know if you are being deliberately obtuse and I know this will be hard to wrap your head around but I was talking broadly about social justice. If a movement or "ism" doesn't follow this (which was from my original response) : acknowledgment of facts, looking at stats and data objectively, emotion is left out and the use of critical thinking
Then I have a problem with them. And unlike you (as it seems) for me doesn't matter if they are; white, black, brown, yellow, purple, green, men, women, trans, nonbinary, straight, gay, asexual, Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pastafarian, Agnostic, Atheist (though I usually agree), conservative, liberal, anarchist, libertarian, centrist, fat, skinny, vegan, vegetarian, fruitarian, gluten sensitive or a ginger
The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Re: News
[Re: DuesPaid]
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09/21/16 09:13 PM
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No. Like I said: I don't care what you believe You were wrong and making things up and I am pointing it out. After you.
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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Re: News
[Re: Faithful1]
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09/22/16 02:43 AM
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yatescj7
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I can't come up with a reason why Officer Betty Shelby would shoot and kill an unarmed man down on the ground following a Taser shot. I could. Im sure you could. Fact is police kill around 45 percent white people per yer, around 22 percent black. So technically police kill twice as many white per year. Of course the media doesn't want to report that because they are the main proponent's of racism. They stir it up to boost headlines and the sheeple that believe are brainwashed and follow them like good little sheeple and don't think for themselves. Don't believe that? Go try to speak your mind in Syria, Somalia, Yemen. Say one thing against their way of thinking they won't care to shoot you unarmed, and if the media reports it they will kill the media, their family and anyone that speaks out against it. Fact. America has gotten to be too feminized. A 180 degree turn from the WW2 era America that was strong and United. I'm aware of the stats, but they are irrelevant to the facts of individual cases. Each case is separate and has to be judged on its own merits. To me, this one didn't cut it. Very educated reply. I wish the media would do the same. Here are the list and incidents of the 706 people killed so far in 2016 and a summary of their confrontation with cops. If you can find a pattern of killing unarmed blacks more than any other race, hats off to you................https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/
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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/22/16 03:17 AM
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The difference is that the white people shot by the police really did charge at the officers. Thought we were looking at individual instances. Now all of a sudden every white person killed by the police "charged" at them? Wow. We can see the real racist here. Bunch all the whites killed by cops together do we?
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Re: News
[Re: OakAsFan]
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09/22/16 03:21 AM
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Typically white people have to try really hard to get shot by the police. Usually a suicide by cop situation. Well you know them white folks boss, we try extra hard, even when it comes to getting killed by police. God them white folks, so simple typical people. Subhuman right?
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