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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
[Re: Ciment]
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09/29/16 11:34 PM
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SoCalGangs
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I used the word surrender because some people are satisfied with the status quo of having continued trade deficits & having jobs go abroad.
I'd rather pay more for products and have a job; as opposed to not having a job and pay less for products at Walmart for example.
The word force was not used in my statement nor intended, I believe it was misinterpreted.In other words if China does not want to negotiate for a fairer trade deal and refuses to comply, I do not see why the US should give in to them. If they walk away from the talks China will have more to lose than the US and will suffer for this action.What I meant by a one way perception is that some are afraid to challenge China for fear of retaliation; they don't see that China stands to lose as well. I don't believe they will walk away.
With regards to issues, there could very be some; but the job of the president is to be a leader and promote his/her platform agenda to the people. This is what elections are for and it also depends how much support the president will get from both houses. Some presidents are very good communicators and can persuade public opinion for example JFK, Reagan and Clinton. What exactly would a fair trade deal with China look like?
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 11:51 AM
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Past caring, then hang a left
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The proliferation of global supply chains and multinational investment has rendered bilateral trade balances an empty metric. (But much like the dreaded'DEATH TAX' it stirs up the proles.)
And engaging in this type of trade war not only goes against our agreements with China, it breaks our agreements within the WTO. Is Trump is planning on withdrawing from the WTO as well? Might as well, he can do it while he's 86'ing NATO.
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 03:52 PM
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Yes, Oak San Diego is full of republucans are you fucking kidding me. In a little over a month we will really know who wins. If trump wins you will still be poor. If Hillary wins you will still be poor.  What you should do is get a rope and hang yourself. You will be happier I promise.
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 04:00 PM
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 05:20 PM
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Libertarians are notorious for falling short on solutions to current events.
Recession? Let the free market sort it out.
Diseases? Let the free market sort it out.
Terrorism? Let the free market sort it out.
Can you name one foreign leader? Trick question! I refuse to answer. And you're notorious for making tons of post per day on subjects you know nothing about. I'm just here to show your little tactic didn't go unnoticed. Gary Johnson says something dumb or is unprepared and now it's "libertarianS lol" . Gary Johnson, a guy that struggles to even define what libertarian even means. Lol
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 06:37 PM
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gangstereport
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People wanted a Libertarian in there, they got it. Libertarians are not known for having a keen grasp on current events. The free market to them is like "the force" in star wars. It would be their solution to a meteor hitting the planet. My goodness, I'm all for the little guy making a buck publishing lists on the internet or whatever without being taxed for half his earnings, but there's just a few too many million of people in this country to let the free market solve all problems. If there's anything good to come of Johnson's buffoonery, it's to scare voters away from going this haphazard direction in the future. did you not read his post he said he does not represent all libertarians like himself you dont read posts properly you just manipulate what people are saying? And you know everything about libertariens and how all of them think and what they expect dont you oak You really dont like anyone thinking a differently to you i have noticed you are the most disrespectful person on this site everytime someone has a different point of view to yours you respond by mocking and manipulating everything they say we all have different opinions to each other i disagree with the majority of this site on certain things but i respect there opinions and i would never respond to them the way you do it is disgusting i will be ignoring your posts in the future there is no point me trying to have any sort of discussion with you
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Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport
Sorry for the confusion
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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09/30/16 06:48 PM
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lol. give me a break. People insult me left and right here and get away with it, and I can't even insult them back because the moderator gave me a "final warning".
I say what I have to say and I follow the rules of the blog, unlike just about anyone else here.
And, btw, the topic I'm discussing is Gary Johnson and libertarian obliviousness. Since you're not a moderator, either reply to my topic or keep moving. Who do you think you are to question anyone else's motives?
And, yes, you were obviously trying to pass all of the world's problems on Democrats the other day. I guess you're still mad because I called you on that. That's probably where this rant is coming from. You're so transparent.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 08:54 PM
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You're right, I probably wouldn't dare debate someone who believes the free market would be the solution for radioactive fallout. Gee, wonder why so many people insult you on here.
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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09/30/16 11:07 PM
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I'm in the same boat as you oak, I have to be very careful what I say, I can't return the fire, I have to be calm, but there are many trump supporters who are down and out racists, and are sympathetic to the kkk. I refuse to let them bait me. also your post on the ultra conservative newpapers not endorsing trump doesn't that tell his supporters something?
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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10/01/16 07:55 AM
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I'm in the same boat as you oak, I have to be very careful what I say, I can't return the fire, I have to be calm, but there are many trump supporters who are down and out racists, and are sympathetic to the kkk. I refuse to let them bait me. also your post on the ultra conservative newpapers not endorsing trump doesn't that tell his supporters something? Racists should be kicked out of both parties and I would start with Hillary Clinton referring to Robert C Byrd a kkk member as " my friend and mentor". Typical liberals, they can't win through dialogue so they resort to race baiting.
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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency?
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10/01/16 09:38 AM
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I'm in the same boat as you oak, I have to be very careful what I say, I can't return the fire, I have to be calm, but there are many trump supporters who are down and out racists, and are sympathetic to the kkk. I refuse to let them bait me. also your post on the ultra conservative newpapers not endorsing trump doesn't that tell his supporters something? Racists should be kicked out of both parties and I would start with Hillary Clinton referring to Robert C Byrd a kkk member as " my friend and mentor". Typical liberals, they can't win through dialogue so they resort to race baiting. Lets also not forget Will Quigg KKK Grand Dragon is supporting Hillary Clinton. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L65RBwrtOeQ
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