http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-gang-sales-1.3804199

Interesting article, armoured cars sold to an associate of Rizzuto Family.

Might be the case. Andrea Scoppa was said to be on good terms with Vito Rizzuto, but times have changed. They've been around for a long time and are very active in the drug trade and because of that they may be looking for a larger slize of the pie if not the whole pie itself. Interestingly, Andrea Scoppa was listed as one of the individuals Stefano Sollecito was not allowed to meet with during his parole.

Yeah, I read that article (I rarely miss any) but I forgot about it stating that it had transitioned to Sollecito. It seems to me that Rocco Sollecito's murder could rather be linked to Giordano than Gallo, but who knows. Gallo had a small army of his own I believe. I still wonder where Mucci stood in all of this. Based on tapes of the Consenza club it looked like that Mucci was with Gallo back then. But based on information from Renaud, Mucci had supposedly distanced himself from Gallo during the take-over attempt because he chose to be neutral. Do you happen to have more information of Mucci's relationship with Gallo? I know that Mucci was in charge of a crew who where distributing coke, but I think that he was Gallo's second-in-command. Also, I ignored your advice and read your post in its entirety.

Tony Mucci has been in armored vehicles for a while now, at least ever since Vito got out he was.

Just to check....after 14 pages were still have no idea what's going on up there? :-)

On the old Real Deal forum we still had no clue after 25 pages of the 'Nicolo Rizzuto has been shot' thread.

what happened to it?

it was still active and then a board error 2 months ago and counting just never got fixed?

It seems like the owner has pulled out the plug.

That's a long story but, in a nutshell, the administrator and moderator over there gave the boot to too many of their most consistent and long-term posters. Slowly the RD forum became a ghost town with only a few posters checking in regularly. Last I saw, a different format of the board can still be accessed elsewhere but it's still basically dead. And the powers that be there have themselves to thank for it.

Power trip over there at the realdeal, too many a knowledgeable people were booted for not following the party line, plus "a few people" brought legal action against the site for discrimination (LE members) or so the rumor is. Those folks that were in power over there, some of them are across the street now, have been for over a year or so.

That sucks it went down. Right when I got vouched for and allowed into the forum it went down basically. Like the next day. I never got the RealDeal experience lol

Yes, the article makes reference to 2006 when a Rizzuto associate bought them. Mucci most probably got from the same company.

I agree the old existing OC family has split up in various factions, all fighting for dominance and with all the betrayals it is very difficult to know who is on what side. At one point the Rizzuto rivals were ahead then then Rizzuto made a comeback; now the rivals have the upper hand for now. It remains to be seen if the Rizzuto's will survive this second round of attacks.

Salvatore Cazzetta remains detained

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...78_section_POS1

Nah I know what happened with people getting banned...

I was still posting right up until the end

there was no announcement or anything...there was just a board error and it never got fixed and i guess they just gave up on it

it happened about 2 months before this last time too, it was down for like 2 weeks, but then it got fixed....then out of nowhere the same thing happened.

people were still posting in the days leading up to the board error

weird

Remember hearing when rizzuto got out he purchased like a fully armored s500 Mercedes or something . Smart move I would do the same thing. It's so wild up there if I was in the mix I would have an armored car and I wouldn't leave the house without a vest and a pistol close by... I know magi also had a armoured car and seemed to always be wearing a vest when he went anywhere .. and also had a fucking convoy of security...

Vests are easy to get and inexpensive.. and not that uncomfortable to wear under your clothes if your life is really on the line. Yeah it's not going to do shit off you catch a head shot or get hit with like a 762 round (some vests will) but still better than nothing

I alluded to the Scoppa thing months ago.

That's who I meant in my post. Not sure why I typed Mucci, but I was thinking Magi. I know they had a story when his "convoy" was rolling and some guy jumped out of the woods with a rifle in his hands and jumped back in the woods and took off. I'm sure it was a sign that he was still being hunted. I have no doubt he still had something to do with Nick Jr's death. I would guarantee if there is a hit list his name is one of the ones still on it.

The Magi brothers have probably still ties to the people around Desjardins.

I gotta confirm, Sinatra Club called that Scoppa thing forever ago, before it came out in the papers, I was quite impressed frankly lol

@ Sinatra
Are those guys still based in Mexico, as far you know?

Rizzuto coming back was like Savastano on the TV show..


In fact, the whole war up there is probably being fought in a similar fashion.

It's no wonder we can't get a full grasp on it, I doubt the participants have a full grasp on it...

Nothing has come out in the papers about the Scoppa brothers yet. It's only speculation.

I think eurodave was the first who said they had a big influence.

I had head of their name and influence in the early 2000's and obviously, they are a force to be recknoned with. Just to inform those of you who that are not familiar with the city, the Scoppa's operated mainly on Gallo's old turf, basically Little Italy and the center of the city. I'm not quite sure what relationship they had though.

I've also come across an interesting article in Italian about certain facts.

"
Out of the game the managers of Alvaro, New York if they are taken the Ursino. Including contacts with the South Americans. The earthquakes are reflected in Canada, where the hierarchies crumble. And with them the pax mafia. The 80 criminals Italian emigrants there had divided the business between Toronto and Montreal. Sicilians to the Rizzuto clan drugs; the Calabrian arrived from Siderno, gambling, gambling and usury. Map designed it in 2010 Italians investigators who worked on the "Crime" maxi investigation, which for the first time identified the leaders of the 'Ndrangheta and is still valid. Three years ago, the leader of the Rizzuto, Vito, is dying of cancer. In the following months, coinciding with the rise of the Ursino in the North American dial, four of the six members of the "Council" of the Rizzuto clan are killed. The last to fall was Rocco Sollecito. A few weeks ago, in Montreal, he was about to end in a coffin Marco Pizzi, 46, cocaine importer for Rizzuto, escaped the ambush of the hitmen who had buffered and flanked with a car. They were masked and armed. "The Calabrian attacked the old" powers.

http://www.grandangoloagrigento.it/la-gu...-dei-calabresi/

The only way Toronto can influence things in Montreal if there's indeed the alliance between the 'calabrian faction' of the Rizzuto clan and the 'Ndrangheta in Ontario maybe backed by the Hells Angels.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...s-policiers.php

For the record the Scoppa's were mentioned in various articles dating back over a decade. The one I posted above dates Oct. 14 2014. Daniel Renaud has been writing about them for years. This pre-dates claims by a certain individual on these posts, that said he called it months ago.
Eurodave is correct he was an associate of Gallo at one time, they do carry weight. They were neutral at first when the war began but now considered rivals.
They are Calabrian. Some of his associates were/are DeVito (Calabrian), Piccirilli(Calabrian),Mirarchi(Calabrian).They all have close ties with the bikers MC (Cazzetta). Most of them made trips to Ontario. If you connect the dots you get the big picture.

I was talking about the Scoppas being pinpointed by journalists as those suspected of being behind the recent turmoil. I'm aware of them being mentioned in older articles. Could you post the article that has identified them as rivals of the Rizzuto faction? I must've missed it.

It is of my opinion that the pie is already divided in Montreal but the war is not over yet. The days of one family having it all is over. That is why we are seeing this conflict being carried out for years.It would be wise to share but some are too stubborn to understand.
If it is true that Ontario Calabrian clans are behind all this then you will have some of these clans or ndrine establish themselves in Montreal. That is a pattern of how they operate in other countries or cities. According to past news articles the Caruana/[BadWord] clan seem to have a good working relationship with the Calabrian clans in Ontario. If hostilities end in Montreal you may have the same relationship taking place in Montreal.

I missed that in all the chaos, but last month they throwed molotov cocktails at John & Dino, a company that used to be owned by Agostino Cun trera, who was gunned down in front of the very same company in 2010.