I come at you with facts and you come back with unsubstantiated opinion. Nothing new here, except that what little cred you have continues to shrink.

Don't know if you went to college or even high school, but they do have these things called books. These books provide information for learning. Learning is good.

By the way, one of the links was an article, not a whole book. So you could have read it and still watched the Seahawks beat the Patriots. Anyway, they refuted your silly claim that there's no evidence of bias. And the silly "corporate bias" claim I destroyed, so why are you still bringing it up? Do you even know who owns the New York Times? Do you know anything about them?

You did not prove that the media is liberal. It's an opinionated argument, anyway. But since you said you could prove it, I was interested in seeing what you would come up with, sort in the way I'd be interested in seeing a picture of Bigfoot. Sure enough, you posted the same fake picture of Bigfoot that's been passed around for years. Considering the ownership of the media, it is more likely the media leans right of center than left. But of course this is a matter of opinion as well. I can admit that. You just go on stating as fact that the media is liberal, even though it'll never be anything more than an opinion of yours.

I'm happy trump won. His election ensures the protection of the second amendment. At the same time he's gonna put in place policies that will help grow our economy and protect our borders. 4 years is a long time, I don't expect it all to happen right away, but over time it will.

Secession doesn't have to mean complete isolation. We have free trade between the states now, and it would be foolish to change that even if a state left the union.

Well it would be up to California. I guess we'd have to see how the other states are behaving themselves. And you know what our social standards are here.

That won't happen. All this talk of California breaking away from the union is just venting from frustration. If anything, California needs to break into two or three states. Los Angeles, Sacramento, and San Francisco get most of the state revenues, which angers most of the state population.

Not sure how that's possible as I'm pretty sure the population of the LA, SF and Sacramento areas combined would make up for the majority of the state's population.

It may not happen now, but at least more people will be aware of that idea and possibility.
There's no reason Texas should tell California what to do or vice versa, or New York tell Alabama what to do etc.
Why is one guy elected president over 300+million people? Why don't people question the absurdity? Washington DC governs California. Why?

It would not be up to California.There is nothing more I would like to see than the State of California go and be a part of Mexico though.

I think you really do make a lot of sense. the united states is more like a continent, look at Canada, separate provinces. and why should 9 people [the supreme court] interpret laws to 320 million. giving states more rights would be a good start, if states vote to legalize pot, the government should let them alone. not send in feds to bust people. one day it will all come to a head, and the federal government will have to bend to the states. remember the states make the government. and together the states can break the government.

Recreational marijuana is already becoming legalized in a few states. It's not just medicinal anymore. That might be the only way to hold the union together...allow each state to express it's local culture. Otherwise you'll have more calls for secession.

I invest to supplement my income I get emails on this. It said this was passed in 8 states. I have no interest in investing in this.

They are looking for people to invest in grass. I rather invest in businesses that cut real grass.

I would not mind if California broke away from the United States and sink in the ocean.

My friend sends me a picture over looking a forest. I am thinking if a fire breaks out he is dead. I also think watch out for bears. I do that all time I do it when I visit my kids new houses.

I ever tell you guys I go over my daughters house for a barbque I am in the house playing with my grand daughter. I hear her yelling to us to get out of the house. I thinking what the hell us going on. Well her barbque that she brought with her evidently was damaged in the move and caught fire near the propane tank. They call the fire department its volunteer. By the time they come the house would have burned down and the surrounding forest would have caught fire.

So I get the fire extinguisher and go in the back yard. Everyone is telling me to get out of there. First I move the barbque from near the house and into open space. I burn my arm doing it. Then I put out the fire. Spray the tank then 25 minutes after that the firemen in their truck show up.

I tell the firemen my wife of over 50 yrs is yelling at me to get out. I say she must still love me. Then I tell them she was calmer when the planes hit the wtc she worked there that day.

My grand kids were on the fire truck my son took pictures ,:)

Then my kids say what now. I say let's buy another barbque already put together and another tank and do it. So we did it we started to eat 10 at night.

You are correct. What I always try to get across to people is that, the less power the Feds and the president have, the less hysterical people would have to be when someone you don't like gets into office. There's nobody that will please the overwhelming majority of the people. Different cultures, different educational backgrounds, different life experiences, different occupations, and difference biases.
State and city government's do bad things too but it's easier to leave a city or state than the country. It is also easier to influence your local government than the Federal government. The more power is centralized, the less power to the individual.
When half the country always feels threatened when the opposite party gains power at the federal level, it's time to question the system.

Saying something like "States Rights" in the South will get you branded as a racist. So will seceding from the Union.

California is the worst state I have ever visited. Took us to an "authentic" Mexican restaurant. Instead of cheese dip they had yogurt. Sucked. I prefer my "fake" Mi Toro restaurant in Mississippi. Only Mexicans work there so I don't know how it's considered Tex-Mex and not authentic, but I won't argue with the Yankees. It's pointless, and they're never wrong.

You sure that was California and not Arizona?
Worst state? New Jersey. You know, that State known as New York's outhouse, that's New Jersey.

Here in NYC we send our garbage to New Jersey. Unfortunately some of the best Sicilian pie places also moved to NJ. Also some children are stupid enough to want to move to New Jersey even if those areas are considered nice.

about secession, a lot of people miss understand the idea of secession, going back to the articles of federation, each state was separate, ruling themselves. this was the original intent of this nation. separate states. look at it today, some states the land the federal govt, owns is more than the state owns. how can you be a state when the govt owns a large percentage of your land.that led to the standoff in Nevada, a state should own ALL OF THEIR LAND. it all goes back to the civil war, after the war the north did not try jefferson davis on war crimes. because the south was RIGHT IN THEIR LEGAL ARGUMENT.. the 10th amendment does give the states the right to secede, worth remembering the states joined the union voluntarily, and they legally have the right to leave it.

The Supreme Court decided the constitutionality of secession in Texas v. White. The decision stated that beginning with the Articles of Confederation the agreement between the states to form a union was to "be perpetual." The court also stated that when the states agreed to "form a more perfect Union" there was nothing that more clearly asserted the belief in their indissoluble unity.

This decision was reinforced by conservative darling, Justice Antonin Scalia, who wrote in 2006 wrote that if there was any single right decided by the Civil War it was that there is no right for a state to secede from the union.

What a horrible precedent. And an evil ruling. So all 50 states together, forever and ever, no matter what? Why not take over Canada then and make them a "state"? Or is 50 just a magical number?

Correct. Can you imagine, if the deal was "once you're in, you can never get out." Then none of the state's would've ever joined.

Nothing magic about 50. In fact, there were only 37 states when SCOTUS ruled on Texas v. White.

So it's good to add more states but it's bad should one or more ever try to leave the union?

Only if you're a Southern State, in which case you are racist.

The amount of racism in the south does stand out compared to other regions.

I don't think it does, oak, racism in the north has always been as bad or worse, when the govt promoted forced busing in the north in the 70s, they met with as much hostility as they did in the south, when the govt shoved civil rights down peoples throats, the north and the south both resisted.

Research how people from Boston reacted to the busing desegregation for starters.

the people of boston's reaction to busing was as violent as anything that ever happened in the south. and it should have been!! forced busing was a slap in the face to every man woman and child in the united states, it never went to a popular vote! was forced by the government under penalty of law, and was unconstitutional!!!

The Great State of Michigan was just certified as a Trump WIN giving all of MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN supporters another victory - 306!