http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/numbers-shut-liberals-electoral-college

Something to think about. Democratic party has become regional.

Recounts should be interesting.

The major papers saying it won't affect the outcome...but they've been wrong before.

And so have you!

Recount is a bad idea. There is/was some level of fraud in every election BUT once the election is over you have to live with the results. If the final electoral vote was close..legitimately it would make sense to recount, but that's not the case.

It's especially a bad idea because this country bends over backwards trying to preach the virtues of democracy to other countries.

That is one of the differences between this and developing countries. The rule here is peaceful seamless transition of power.

How do we know it was close without recounting?

The irregularities surrounding the voting machines are too many to name.

As far as other countries go, lol, they stopped taking our democracy seriously a long time ago...probably in 2000. Us little Americans all huddled up with our big screen tvs and credit cards might buy that all the votes were counted in Florida, but the world knows what happened. They've seen this. All we're showing the world is how much of a hypocritical joke we are. They might be pleasantly surprised to see the American people stand up against what is likely the second stolen election in two decades.

oak i can speak as a foreigner we don't think the election has been rigged and we do think you have democracy we just think the US is crazy place lol but that's not a new thing.


i don't like the US not the people living there but your leaders and government its your arrgroance which annoys me you guys have been bullies for a long time only difference between you and Russia is the US tries to pretend it has moral purposes while Russia and China is they don't try to hide they are scumbags. Obama came of at times as wanting do actually do some good for world but still dident like him better than bush Clinton trump but that's not saying much.



Anyway Russia are no longer a superpower they just pretend to be US is a dying superpower China will never be the superpower worldwide the west wont allow it not while China is a dictatorship they cant act how they do in China elsewhere in the world it will be Chinas eventual demise. So whos the future superpower it will be interesting if the EU does not break up it could become it i mean once the UK they can finally make there fucking EU army they want to be like the US the EU they want each country to be like states in the US i think they are secretly delighted the UK is leaving now they can do what they always wanted.

But if the EU does break up and it could potentially who knows what the world will look like in 20 years look at the problems it is facing if LePen wins in France it will change Europe forever if Renzi loses his referendum in Italy (and i think he will) there will be a new election five star movement i think will win then Italy could be the next to leave the EU it is very likely that will be the end of Italy it will spilt into pieces the North want Add to dictionary badly they don't like the south because of the poverty and crime which they bring to Italy. Spain will eventually collapse what they are doing to Catolan people is disguating 80% said they want to leave Spain but Madrid wont let them they know there is too much money in areas like Barcenlona but it will fall apart these sort of countries never work. Austria could be having a racist nutjob as there leader. Holland has a big anti EU feeling at the moment and Germany are seeing the rise of the AFD

Glad to know you speak for ALL non- U.S. citizens, GR. I guess that clears that up. lol.

If you believe that, then do you also support recounts in the states that Hillary won that were close? Should there be recounts in Nevada, New Hampshire, Michigan and Minnesota too? After all, Hillary won by a slimmer margin in those states than the ones Trump won. How about California, where there's a history of undocumented immigrants voting?

oak no calls in the media no politicians no one i have spoken to has talked about being proud that you guys are redoing your votes in some states nor have i heard about your system being undemocratic until this election like i have said to you many times oak its your country who are we to judge how you elect your leaders i care about what you guys do to the rest of us because dying superpower or not you are still currently the most powerful nation in the world what the US actions effect everyone

the rest i said about the hatred is true you travel the world oak get peoples views on the US your deluded if you think the US is liked abroad you guys ruined the middle east leaving us to deal with the mess caused chaos in Asia in the Balkans in Africa helped fuck the economy i can give you a long list of examples if you want

There's no reason to recount the states Hillary won that are close. There's no valid suspicions of any problems there. Just asinine tweets by Trump.

I would start the recount beginning at the Democratic primaries.
Who says Hillary won ? It was Bernie that was getting the big crowds and wiki-leaks proved that DNC ceo Wasserman Schultz was colluding with the Hillary campaign staff to overthrow Bernie.

Even if that were true, it would be for the better. Republicans were salivating for Bernie because he would be so easy to beat on foreign policy. In the post 9/11 world, some of Bernie's stances on issues are political 3rd rails. Trump would have destroyed Bernie. He barely beat Hillary, and it hasn't even been determined that he beat her yet. There might be recounts. Plus, one of the reasons the electoral college is in place is to prevent crazy people like Trump from becoming president. We'll see what the electors do.

oak what you have just said Is contradicting your whole point I do agree with you guys deserve a recount to make sure it was fair its democracy but what you just said about sanders contradicts that your basically saying you agree with cheating as long as its your candidate

you like that idea look at Russia you need to respect others views even if you disagree you live in a democracy respect it if Clinton cheated in the primaries then she deserves to be punished just like Trump

and as for berine oak I am not sure your the best political predictor if my memory is correct you said Clinton would win by a landslide

Spin it anyway you want Hillary cheated.

Well, GR, they say the only rule in cheating is don't get caught.

Like the democrats that were salivating for Trump because they were so sure he would be easy to beat. So much for conventional wisdom.

Democrats certainly underestimated Trump's ability to get what he wants. We just might find out how he did it.

Everyone knows how he did it except you.

Nah Oak. I think it was somewhere around January of 2009.

Barely beat Hillary? 306 to 232 is not a close race Oak. Keep believing that though. Congrats on Pelosi being Minority Leader again though. It proves y'all have learned absolutely nothing about the hardworking American people and pretty much assures America will have the Republican Presidency, House, and the Senate for years to come. Keep it up with your high handed educational ways. Working out great so far.