Thanks, Alexandarns. Never heard of that James Caan flick. Buffalo mob in the '60s. Even if it's bad it's probably good.

rooster, good work. keep it up and keep us all informed moving forward.

This was concerning Giacomo for clariafication.

EDIT:

IE


There's no such thing.

There is however a NYS Organized Crime Task Force

Statewide offices, one of which happens to be in Buffalo

Bye, see you all in a little over four years.

@ Tommy

Dude, that's all I asked for in the first place, a little clarification. I even specifically asked for SOMEONE to call him out in my Paolo Gambino thread. There was fuckin silence, so don't hold it against me too much....I said multiple times, I've never been on the other forums, and really am not familiar with all this shit. Just like I didn't really get all the beef with Scott until someone explained it to me.

This guy Rooster seems legit, but it took a legit buffalo resident to call him on his shit and expose him. But you called HIM a liar too. I've seen that pattern before, wanted to be sure this wasn't another "Detroit".

And on the California, expert of all thing, I hear you, but if you listen to a guy like Ivey he will,swear to you it means " diddly squat" lol. So I kinda got your point there, but that perspective has been attacked on here before like, well anyone can research and know as much as a resident, blah, blah...

All you guys seems to know each other from multiple forums, even multiple forum NAMES, I don't, don't assume everyone just knows all this, hell I don't even u understand such nonsense.

Also I feel compelled to add, ARNT YOU SUPPOSED TO BANNED FOR SHIT LIKE THIS?

Like the fact he was still posting? Why was he allowed? If this shit was so known on the boards?

It took no time for Chech to get banned, (for some personal attack) and people were actively saying Moe shoulda got a vacation too.

This shoulda been made a priority no?

Yeah, it's definitely time for a break from this.....

There was a lot more that he got caught and/or admitted to making up.

People come on this forums to learn or to share information, but every now and then someone comes along who misleads readers with bogus stories that never happened. That is Giacomo_Vacari.

@ Tommy

This situation reminded me of this one here......


http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=868092&page=1

Now notice, Mighty is a regular poster, but HE was unaware of the new Bronx poster. And right away, it's he's a Troll, or lying. But only a Bronx guy could REALLY vouch for the guy. Also notice by the end of the thread, NO ONE BUT THESE TWO BRONX GUYS EVEN KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS BEING SAID.

That's what this reminded me of..... I was thinking it was a repeat situation. Plus, just with all the regular bullshit that goes on on here.... I'm like, ooh here we go....

I don't buy anything Giacomo Vacari says. I also find Rooster's date of registration annoyingly suspicious. If Buffalo is active then I'd love to see some reliable sources for once. Just once.

i wouldn't be surprised if the buffalo family is really still active and viable, at least on the canadian side (hamilton/niagara falls)

Its the reason why I open the thread.
At least isnt viable but with some made men still active. Who are is the problem.

hamilton was a crew of the buffalo family and the italian mafia is very strong there, so the canadian side probably took over what's left of the buffalo made men

The Musitano brother's run Hamilton and have since they killed Papalia. The Buffalo crew based in Hamilton is dead.

This.

That's why Tommy, myself, etc take pains call out posters like Giacomo.
There are several posters who, in this thread alone have bought the bullshit Giacomo peddles. And that's worse than some obvious obnoxious troll who can be recognized and discarded immediately, because he does it in such a deceptive, convincing fashion. That's why he's more dangerous. Again, look at just this thread.

Readers have a right to not be deliberately deceived.

@Cabrini: the mods here aren't fact checkers. They moderate inappropriate behaviour (swearing, abuse, threats etc). And that's not Giacomo's modus operandi. The mods at 'the other' forum are afficiados themselves and moderate deliberate abuse of content.
That's why he is here and not there.

SonnyBlackstein I would elect you to be the watch dog. You seem the most level headed person on this site.

To balance things:

I have been accused of having duplicate accounts by one poster.
I have been accused of sending insulting private messages by another poster.
I have been told to commit suicide by two different posters. (Which is a despicable thing to say. There are hundreds of people using this forum and I would be shocked if nobody here knows someone who has been affected by something like this).
I have been abused because of my ethnic background several times by several posters.

And it's these same posters who got me banned from Black Hand or Real Deal (I can't remember which one).

Now I'm a big boy. If a moderator thinks my behavior is inappropriate and gives me a warning, I will change my behavior.

But what I think is a shitty thing to do is to ban someone for no reason because one or two idiots are carrying a grudge from one site to the other.

And I have no doubt in my mind it's the same xenophobic, racist, hate filled people aforementioned who got me banned from that site.

I personally commend the moderators here for the way they handle things.

They have no tolerance for bullying, bigotry or racism and they try to keep things civil.

People may think my jokes are shitty as hell but I firmly believe there is room for both humor and seriousness when discussing the mafia. The world of the mafia is full of gallows humor; full of vibrant, vivid characters who are like something from a novel. Jerry Capeci's articles are a mix of comedy and seriousness. George Anastasia's books are like a black comedy. The Sopranos was a mix of drama and black comedy for goodness sake!

People need to lighten up!

As for Giacomo, I have no dog in this race. I have no idea if what he is saying is true or not. But he is not the only local guy who posts information that cannot be verified.

I am not the most knowledgeable of posters though so I can see where other people are coming from.

That's terrible to hear. Just out of curiosity, what is your ethnicity? I always pictured a white man.

I am white LOL. But it doesn't matter whether you are Irish, Italian, Jewish or Black. It's wrong to pick on someone because of where they come from and/or what they are.

+1

Who the hell is doing that in this dialogue?

People are commendably illustrating a posters deliberate misguiding fraudulent posts.

What the hell has that got to do with race etc?

Ha. Very kind. Appreciated.

But I'm too selfish to want to do that

@cabrini giamco I don't like how he makes things up purposdly misleading people done it so many times just something i have noticed i will give you a recent example that gangland news article i posted recently about that rat taking a beating he first claims it was a cop who beat the rat up that capeci lied. So I ask him how do you know and a simple question why would a cop beat up a known informant in Little Italy? in he cant tell me why just claims he knows what happened says his sources told him i press him for details he cant tell me why reason its bullshit he has no sources he just made it up.

That's just a recent example I have noticed it a lot I don't normally say anything but what sonny is right its wrong he is purposely misleading people

But your right I try to stay out of the arguments on this site and you know you saw it yourself the petty shit people gave me when I first joined the site so this is the only post I will make about this subject not going to argue with people on the internet. As for the new guy I have no idea if he is telling truth he could be legit I will listen to what he says and make my own judgement I am in agreement with you i am not going to start claiming he is lier when i don't know the details if he is a bullshitter he will be found out eventually

Moe crying about people picking on him for being Irish that's bullshit. People just see him for what he is, a no mark [BadWord] who spends his days on forums cracking terrible jokes.

The piling on of Giacamo still seems suspicious. There's a lot of people here who spread false info and don't get nearly as much grief as this. Something else is going on. Perhaps some people know each other personally. Who knows? But there's no way this is all about getting facts wrong.

Always funny seeing someone who has never stepped foot in America belligerently lecture Americans about the American mafia without any sense of irony.

Also funny how the guy who has accounts on at least 3 mafia forums is making fun of a guy because he has an account on 1 mafia forum.

Longtime reader of the board articles,New on the site.Lifetime Queens,Brooklyn born n bred ! I have been to prison on 2 bids,numerous jail visits,fed bop and state. I'll put my two cents in here,Buffalo is far from on its last legs,as is Detroit !I've been around and there is literally TONS of guys,Made and associates everywhere ! I've lived upstate for a Lil while before moving back to the city because I was violated by Nys parole and sent back to the city.Nys, upstate towns and cities are very corrupt and Traditional OC is EVERYWHERE !! They are involved in legitimate business in every shape and form and in every Industry imaginable.There are other problems the feds deal with on a regular basis and just because there are no Rico cases,indictments does not mean OC is not there.During the 1980s and 1990s where traditional OC was public enemy #1 and brought to its knees all the Crime families were stabilized and operating at a high level here in 2016 ! Whether you believe it or not Buffalo is Alive and very well ! They have adapted and operate in a similar but very different fashion .The days of the celebrity,Hollywood gangster BS are long gone , No more crazy whacked out Cowboy shit going on !! The American Mob grew way too big and out of control and needed to be shut down ! I grew up in John Gotti country, Ozone pk and that Moron really destroyed everything for everyone.The feds actually have no clue how many Made guys are out there with all those BS charts they put out ! Smfh, Lmfaoo !! Everything today is White collar, Exploited to no end.Everything is Computers,internet ,web based !! Gambling,Shy and protection rackets are gigantic believe it or not and they not only involve Italians, or other whites, but now they are exploiting other ethnic groups, Mexicans,Arabs , etc . Drugs are HUGE WITH the Italians right now as is working relationships w Street gangs, Bloods,Crops,Latin Kings etc ! Everyone is working together these days unlike ever before, The MC's ! Its endless ! In my opinion, OC is making more money than ever ! Buffalo has never been close to dead !! Today, there's more making ceremonies than ever, On record and on the sneak !