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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #892151
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Black Mass by Dick Lehr and Gerard O'Neill. As someone who is not very familiar with the Whitey Bulger story and Boston LCN I thought this was a really informative and well-written book.

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Pass on "Lanza's Mob", about the SF family. Hardly anything in there about the family itself. Mostly a rehash of organized crime in SF pre and during prohibition, which there was a lot of. Once the commission was formed, the Lanza Family had been very pedestrian. Almost entirely into legitimate business.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Pass on "Lanza's Mob", about the SF family. Hardly anything in there about the family itself. Mostly a rehash of organized crime in SF pre and during prohibition, which there was a lot of. Once the commission was formed, the Lanza Family had been very pedestrian. Almost entirely into legitimate business.


a trans-attorny writes about the mob oh that irony lol

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
1991. So, 25 years old, by my high school math.

Not sure why it would matter.

I mean, here are some books that are over 40 years old:

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain

A Tale of Two Cities- Charles Dickens

The Bible...


oak, u do realize that huckleberry finn and so is fiction, right? Whereas Organized crime should belong to the true crime section, and the internet for information gain (beginning in the mid-late 90s) is invaluable for such a task. That was my point. Before the 90s, u had either to completely trust your source (The last mafioso comes to mind) or do years of research in local libraries. Not to forget, sites like maryferrel are priceless.

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Originally Posted By: mickey2
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1991. So, 25 years old, by my high school math.

Not sure why it would matter.

I mean, here are some books that are over 40 years old:

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain

A Tale of Two Cities- Charles Dickens

The Bible...


oak, u do realize that huckleberry finn and so is fiction, right? Whereas Organized crime should belong to the true crime section, and the internet for information gain (beginning in the mid-late 90s) is invaluable for such a task. That was my point. Before the 90s, u had either to completely trust your source (The last mafioso comes to mind) or do years of research in local libraries. Not to forget, sites like maryferrel are priceless.


That's a good point mickey2. When reading older books on the mob you always run the risk of dealing with old myths that have been proven wrong. The flip side is, older authors had access to some sources that aren't available anymore.

But when it comes to All American Mafioso: The Johnny Rosseli Story, being old does not affect it negatively at all. The author has interviewed multiple sources and done extensive research.

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But when it comes to All American Mafioso: The Johnny Rosseli Story, being old does not affect it negatively at all. The author has interviewed multiple sources and done extensive research.


I just read the introduction from amazon and there is already a myth. The kennedys, JFK and RFK, were NOT aware of the kill modus operandi of the CIA. The CIA itself admitted that in its Inspector General Report to the Church Committee.

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But when it comes to All American Mafioso: The Johnny Rosseli Story, being old does not affect it negatively at all. The author has interviewed multiple sources and done extensive research.


I just read the introduction from amazon and there is already a myth. The kennedys, JFK and RFK, were NOT aware of the kill modus operandi of the CIA. The CIA itself admitted that in its Inspector General Report to the Church Committee.



I will admit, the author goes a bit too far when it comes to the attempted Castro assassination. Still a great book though wink

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But when it comes to All American Mafioso: The Johnny Rosseli Story, being old does not affect it negatively at all. The author has interviewed multiple sources and done extensive research.


I just read the introduction from amazon and there is already a myth. The kennedys, JFK and RFK, were NOT aware of the kill modus operandi of the CIA. The CIA itself admitted that in its Inspector General Report to the Church Committee.



I will admit, the author goes a bit too far when it comes to the attempted Castro assassination. Still a great book though wink


let me guess, rosselli was a shooter on the grassy knoll too?

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But when it comes to All American Mafioso: The Johnny Rosseli Story, being old does not affect it negatively at all. The author has interviewed multiple sources and done extensive research.


I just read the introduction from amazon and there is already a myth. The kennedys, JFK and RFK, were NOT aware of the kill modus operandi of the CIA. The CIA itself admitted that in its Inspector General Report to the Church Committee.



I will admit, the author goes a bit too far when it comes to the attempted Castro assassination. Still a great book though wink


let me guess, rosselli was a shooter on the grassy knoll too?


They didn't go that far lol If I remember correctly though there's a fair bit about the Kennedy assassination.

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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #892670
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I don't research anything without anticipating at least a 10% b.s. rate in what I'm reading, possibly more in some cases.

I'll take any information that gets me in the vicinity of the gold. I'll find it from there.

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But when it comes to All American Mafioso: The Johnny Rosseli Story, being old does not affect it negatively at all. The author has interviewed multiple sources and done extensive research.


I just read the introduction from amazon and there is already a myth. The kennedys, JFK and RFK, were NOT aware of the kill modus operandi of the CIA. The CIA itself admitted that in its Inspector General Report to the Church Committee.



I will admit, the author goes a bit too far when it comes to the attempted Castro assassination. Still a great book though wink


let me guess, rosselli was a shooter on the grassy knoll too?


mickey 2.... ive read many, many,books on the kennedys and the assassination and I'm not quite sure that I can believe any source that states that the kennedy brothers had no knowledge of plots against the life of fidel castro.

after all my reading, I firmly believe believe that the kennedy brothers knew full well, and hastened the plots against castro.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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mickey 2.... ive read many, many,books on the kennedys and the assassination and I'm not quite sure that I can believe any source that states that the kennedy brothers had no knowledge of plots against the life of fidel castro.

after all my reading, I firmly believe believe that the kennedy brothers knew full well, and hastened the plots against castro.


No. They did not.

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Hey, mickey, do you have any book recommendations?


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Hey, mickey, do you have any book recommendations?


Kennedy Assassination?

The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government
https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard...ds=allen+dulles



JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters
https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-W...s=james+douglas


Destiny Betrayed: JFK, Cuba, and the Garrison Case
https://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Betrayed-...words=dieugenio



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Growing up Mafia - Frank Dematteo

I was a little skeptical about buying this one because the story is told from the viewpoint of Frank who was born in 1956. I figured how much could he possibly know or remember about The Gallo crew? But, I must say, I am about 70 pages in and it definitely gives you a very good image of what it was like being in the crew. I believe he is able to do this better than I expected IS because his dad was part of the Gallo crew. I believe he was always picking his brain....So far, so good!

Re: Mafia Books [Re: mickey2] #893552
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Hey, mickey, do you have any book recommendations?


Kennedy Assassination?

The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government
https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard...ds=allen+dulles



JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters
https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-W...s=james+douglas


Destiny Betrayed: JFK, Cuba, and the Garrison Case
https://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Betrayed-...words=dieugenio




So I take it you support the Garrison theory. I do, too. Nobody had a bigger motive to kill JFK than our military brass. And they were much more capable of pulling it off than the mob, even the mob in those days. I still the mob was involved with heavy stuff in those days. Operations Mongoose and Family Jewels are plausible, imo.


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I just read the Book "The Butcher".

This guy Tommy Pitera is one sick individual.

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I understand that Detective Joe Coffee has written a mob book. Don't know the title but am wondering if anyone here has read it and what are your thoughts. He ought to have had a lot of good information. Thanks in advance for any help.

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I understand that Detective Joe Coffee has written a mob book. Don't know the title but am wondering if anyone here has read it and what are your thoughts. He ought to have had a lot of good information. Thanks in advance for any help.


I didn't read it but this is what the title is called:
The Coffey Files: One Cop's War Against the Mob Hardcover – Feb 1992
by Joseph J. Coffey, Jerry Schmetterer

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Thanks, guess I'll give it a shot. Can't be that bad.

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Have recently found this site here, where all 3 books of the "Before Bruno" trilogy by Celeste Morello are available for online reading for free; might be useful, since those books aren't available for sale in electronic format, while the paper version is often rather expensive.

https://digital.library.villanova.edu/Collection/vudl:428061


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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Have recently found this site here, where all 3 books of the "Before Bruno" trilogy by Celeste Morello are available for online reading for free; might be useful, since those books aren't available for sale in electronic format, while the paper version is often rather expensive.Somewhere's i posted a while ago on i think this thread that i bought the b-4 bruno 2nd edition,1931-1959 @the italian market here in philly from Celeste herself,this was back in 2009..she used 2 set up shop w/a little table & sell her wares on saturdays,,autographed the book & spoke 2 my wife & I 4 a few minutes about the old guys in the neighborhood..also commented how much she loved salvie testa's blue eyes.. go figure,,nice enough lady though. Good reads.

https://digital.library.villanova.edu/Collection/vudl:428061


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I messed up that post above..my post begins after dwalin's last word of (expensive)..sorry guy's,im not savvy on the keys.old school.


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Just read Gravano's Underboss for the first time, it was alright, but didn't find out anything I already knew..

Just began with 'The Last Godfathers' by John Follain. It's about the rise and fall of the Corleonesi. I'm at page 80 at the moment but I can't put it away, it's one of the best true crime books I've ever read. His prose is superb. When he, for example, describes the assassination of Falcone, something I already know how and when it took place, he still manages to create suspense and get you right in the middle of it.
I can really recommend this book to everybody who wants to know more about the Sicilian Mafia..

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Meyer Lansky: The Thinking Man's Gangster by Robert Lacey. This was a terrific biography which did a great job at deconstructing the myths surrounding Lansky and providing an honest account of his life. With all my years of organized crime research I didn't think I would find anything new but was surprised at every turn. Highly recommended.

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I just finished "The Coffee files". I found it interesting even though I didn't learn much new information. I learned about his trip to France investigating a Mob guy and the part about guarding Joe Frazier while he was in NYC for the Ali fight. I already knew about all the politics in the NYPD. Still, I would recommend this book for any m ob buff.

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I had previously downloaded the Dominic Cicale book and have since seen the comments on here. It did seem to have a lot of BS and the author rehashed a lot of mob history that everyone is familiar with

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"Sinatra, The Chairman" - James Kaplan. Sinatra biography, post 1954. (second part to Kaplan's "The Voice", which covers Sinatra's birth to 1953")

This book is bigger than a phone book. I wouldn't recommend trying to read it cover to cover. Definitely a collectible for the die hard fan. If you get it at a library or something, however, it has a great index, and a ton of material on Frank's mob connections.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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I can't recommend Brotherhoods enough. Probably the best mob book I have ever read.


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I can't recommend Brotherhoods enough. Probably the best mob book I have ever read.


The one about Casso, Eppolito and carracappa, etc?

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